Carfree in the Country

Leta

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I'm not sure if this goes here, please move it if it belongs somewhere else.

I've been thinking a lot about the ridiculous amount of money that we spend on vehicles.

We are lucky enough to have a fairly good bus system where I live (U.P. of MI, north central region). It visits many far flung, podunk areas. The university here has contracted with the bus so that if you show a uni ID, you ride for free. Kids under 6 ride free, 6 and over cost eighty cents. They do door-to-door service, too, but that costs $5, more for multiple people and stops.

Biking is HUGE here. I swear, everyone who lives within the city limits and works at the college bikes to work. Our friend's brother works at the power plant and lives 18 miles away, he bikes to work and back, but he has showers at work that he can use.

I have met folks who ride their horses to work. Now, that's rare, even here. In one case it's a veterinarian, in another it was a lady who worked at a one-light town's general store that had a fenced pasture in the back, the other was a kid who worked at the feed store in a rural area. The rest have been farriers and trainers.

There are taxis in the biggest city here (population 20,000). They will pick you up and take you back to the city for $20 if you are within 15 miles. Round trip would be $40, but I was thinking if you had things well planned an only did this once a month, that would be WAY cheaper than car ownership.

We are still in town (two towns over and 15 miles from the biggest city) and my husband (who works at the college) is literally the first person there in the morning, so his shift is too early to ride the bus. But that will not be the case forever, as we are planning on him moving to a later shift, nine month position once we move out of town. We are thinking of looking for places that are on or very close to a bus route so that we are not so dependent on our cars. I want to go back to school to become a nurse, so being on a bus route would benefit me, too, but I have also been looking into work at home jobs- for my current skill set, or as an Ask A Nurse, for example.

We have also thought about trying to farm in or near the college and hospital, but the problem with that is that between the increased cost of real estate and the legal battles, whatever savings we'd realize by minimizing car use would be eaten up.

I do a good amount of online shopping, but I have been thinking that I would start ordering a lot more from sites like soap.com and alice.com if we were carfree. I'd probably sew more, too, and buy more used clothes from eBay rather than the thrift store.

I would love to hear other people's ideas and experiences with this.
 

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Around here, they want people to take public transportation. But, it doesn't go anyplace I need to go. I have seen more people riding bicycles, but the majority of them seem to be older. What I am seeing more of is motorcycles and scooters, especially scooters. You can get one for a fraction of the cost of a vehicle, they get great gas mileage, and most have some type of "trunk" for putting groceries in. I thought about a scooter when I was looking for my motorcycle, but I think it would have bored me. They just don't seem as exciting. :lol:
 

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I you don't mind me asking, where do you live?

Or if you do mind me asking, what is your climate like? And is your area rural, suburban, or urban?
 

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I would love to be car free... we're 45 miles away from public transportation though, and we both work weird shifts so it's next to impossible to carpool with anyone on a regular basis... For now I don't think there's really anything we can do.

I HATE the bus system in the town where we work... when we lived in the town I didn't own a car and took the bus everywhere I had to go ($2/ride). I had to start my waitressing job at 11am and because of transfers I had to leave my house shortly before 8 am to make it in time... most buses here only run once an hour (in a city of 140,000). If I had owned a car the trip would have taken 20 minutes, I always felt like for the amount of my day that was wasted sitting on a bus, or waiting for a bus, it would almost be worth it to buy a car.

Edited to add.. we live in a rural area outside of Moncton, New Brunswick... snow and cold for about 6 months of the year, we can usually ride motorcycles between late-may and late-september.
 

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I don't mind. I live in South Jersey, about 1/2 hour SSE from Philly.

The area we're in is a mix. We have some cities (like Glassboro and Vineland), some towns (like Pitman and Clayton), and some Townships (like Franklin Township and Elk Township). The townships are made up of small towns that share a zip code (like Iona, Porchtown, Janvier and Star Cross, all part of Franklin Township). Most people probably don't even realize that they live in one of these small town.

We have areas where there's quite a bit of traffic. But then, you head away from those areas, and it's pretty rural. There might be heavy traffic on the main roads, but that's normally only at AM and PM rush hour. A traffic jam for me means that there's geese on the road from the local lake.

To give you some idea of the traffic I encounter when I'm on my motorcycle, it's not unusual for me to not have to put my feet down, or just put them down 1x or 2x when I go from my house to the farm where I have my horses. And this is in spite of going thru 9 stop signs, one of them is on a "main" highway.

As for weather, our last 2 winters were freaky. We had record breaking snowfalls the one, and the other, we had snow on the ground from 12/26 to sometime in February or March. Normally, it's not like that. While we do normally get some colder weather, normally, it's in the lower 40s during the day. If the temps are above 40*, and I can get my bike out, I'll ride it.
 

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I have been thinking about the scooter/motorcycle idea myself. The trouble is that my husband lacks a ball joint in his hip (he has a bolt instead), and doesn't have the needed balance for any sort of bike. I've never seen a trike type scooter, and trike motorcycles are $$$$$.
 

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I never want to be car free or truck free. I live in the country and no way would a bike survive the main road to even get to any of my stores. can we say road kill :p

have been thinking of motorcycle but I don't think anytime soon.
I think as much as it might save me in gas and wear/tear on my SUV...the cost of the bike and 'having to drive kiddo' with me kinda makes me think usage would be low.

if I had city bus convenience etc sure I would take advantage., would I give up all my vehicles....probably not

my area is a car for survival and the truck is needed on the farm definitely.
 

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I'm car free in the country because I HAVE to be, I have a medical condition which causes unexpected attacks of vertigo so I had to give up driving.

It is not a good thing. We depend on our cars these days and this makes me totally dependent on those who do have cars. There is no way a public transportation system will ever come up here to where I live and I could not afford a horse even if that was feasible for getting down to the closest store (but it is not). I live on a mountaintop so there is no way you could ride a bike up it.
 

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We're 11 miles from the nearest little town that has a grocery store so that's a little farther than I'd try to bike to get groceries. No public transportation around here. We need our pickup too many times to give it up right now and DH's job takes him out on the road with his car. When he retires completely, I'll push for only one vehicle.

Years ago I had a friend in a major city in Kansas. Her husband was deployed (Navy), had 5 smallish kids and no car. She took the bus to get groceries - whatever she could carry, sometimes the oldest kid went with her. She said it worked out well and they saved a ton of money, even after paying bus fare. No upkeep, taxes, gasoline, etc.
 

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I had to rely on public transportation when I was young. It almost got me fired. The routes where pretty far away from where I needed to be, the times it dropped off meant I was either really really early or a little late. If I had to do a split shift I couldn't go home. Plus there were times I had to work late and the bus stopped running before I got off.

As for biking, I tried it and nearly died. People in this area had no respect for bikes and did not share the road. Times are changing on that point so biking may finally be safe. Plus the roads have been improved over the years so you won't be forced off a steep shoulder in to a ditch anymore.

There is the issue of our area being really spread out. I don't think day to day living without a Car is really doable with any kind of efficiency.

Abi, being in metro Denver can do it pretty easily. Security/Widefiled? Not so much.
 

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