Deadly Medicine

[Blackbird]

Surprise surprise!

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/01/deadly-medicine-201101?currentPage=all

Rather long... The gist of it is that American companies are moving clinical trials to poor areas in foreign countries where there are less health restrictions and where people, for whatever reason (be it they need the money, have health issues, etc) are more likely and more willing to take these drugs and meds on a trial basis.
Thus these companies save money, but they are also making it by approving drugs for people that aren't even up to US safety standards (and the drugs here.. well...) but are nonetheless being marketed as safe and effective. How ethical!

 

[Denim Deb]

Just think, how often do you hear about a drug being recalled. I try to avoid drugs as much as possible unless it's been around awhile, and I've had it b4.

 

[freemotion]

One of my uncles was a nurse anthesthetist. he would not use a drug unless it had been on the market at least 10 years!

 

[abifae]

Smart of them. That does make it MUCH easier to toss out any trials that go very very badly.

I'm not big on ethics. Unethical makes faster advances in a lot of fields. BUT... that being said... that is WHY I don't believe anything anyone says LOL.

3 out of 5 doctors... probably interviewed ten or twenty to get those three and tossed out all but 2 dissenters

I have to admit, I find ads for drugs VERY amusing. There is a new one out for a birth control pill that only has you bleed 4 times a year. And it's all cheerful. "There is no medical reason for a monthly period!" "You may bleed monthly as though you were having a period!" "This can cause strokes and heart attacks!" And I just crack up.

I'm not sure there is any ethical in the entire medical field at this point. Doctors, to be ethical and treat a patient, have to misdiagnose them to trick insurance companies into paying for full treatment (I'm thinking the "autism epidemic" here LOL). Doctors get kick backs for drugs they prescribe. Ads are everywhere. "Are you depressed? Well you're killing yourself and destroying the lives of all your loved ones. Take our drug and come out of the fog and be wonderful!"

I think they overdo ethics on a lot of studies, so the concept pleases me. More people should further science by getting out of the US stranglehold. I'm getting very tired of the US funding studies by politics and who gives the answer we most want, instead of using science in any way. And I'm tired of the overprotection that slows down most studies (like finding out more about autism. You would need to brutalize the kids to get the answers I want).

This doesn't mean anyone should take useless drugs LOL.

 

[ORChick]

My brother loaned me a book by John le Carre, "the Constant Gardener" (looking it up just now I see there is also a movie). Its fiction, but it is hard to ever think any good at all about pharmaceutical companies since reading it. Worth the read though. Big pharma + poor people in Africa + drug testing.

 

[Wannabefree]

like finding out more about autism. You would need to brutalize the kids to get the answers I want.

That is disturbing. Good thing you aren't in the medical field. So long as the "lab rats" aren't protected, it's all good? Yeesh! What if you were that "lab rat"?

 

[Blackbird]

Hm. Well Abi WAS a CNA.

We are all lab rats when it comes to pharmaceutical companies.

 

[Wannabefree]

Hm. Well Abi WAS a CNA.

We are all lab rats when it comes to pharmaceutical companies.

I agree we are all lab rats...IF we partake of their poison. I'd hate to be Abi's patient

Although, I somewhat see the point to a MUCH lesser degree Abi...not really pickin on you but that statement was pretty harsh. I thought about it more like this though...What if Helen Keller were a child born in America today? I don't think her nurse would have been able to get her to the point that she did given the current standards of coddling patients nevermind the malpractice suit loving lawyer vultures. At the same time, ya can't just twist a kids arm to the point of breaking it until they tell you what you want to hear either. I hear waterboaring works though :/

 

[abifae]

like finding out more about autism. You would need to brutalize the kids to get the answers I want.

That is disturbing. Good thing you aren't in the medical field. So long as the "lab rats" aren't protected, it's all good? Yeesh! What if you were that "lab rat"?

I was. LOL. Done me good. Need more of it

eta... electroshock works best on auties. LOL! Guess how I know

 

[Wannabefree]

like finding out more about autism. You would need to brutalize the kids to get the answers I want.

That is disturbing. Good thing you aren't in the medical field. So long as the "lab rats" aren't protected, it's all good? Yeesh! What if you were that "lab rat"?

I was. LOL. Done me good. Need more of it

eta... electroshock works best on auties. LOL! Guess how I know

uhhhhh I don't wanna know