New dishwasher conversation with MIL

[CrealCritter]

I.thought you all might enjoy this conversation. My third oldest son and I installed a new dish washer for my MIL 100% free of charge. The first time she used it she said it doesn't work. Doesn't get the dishes clean and they we're still wet at the end of the cycle.


Hey Marge I don't recall but does that dish washer have a hi temp wash and heated dry option? Like this?

Yes

Does it heat the water when selected?

No

If you don't select heated wash it will wash at the temperature of your hot tap water. I don't know how hot you have your water set at the hot water heater.

I will test it again tomorrow let you know

Ok, I'll come over and look at it... It may need a new heat element. It's in the bottom of the dishwasher. Looks like a heat element that's in a electric oven

OK

So when you select hi temp wash. It should fill up the bottom with water. Then the heat element comes on briefly and heats the water. Then it will run the wash cycle and drain. After it's done the heat element will come back on to dry the dishes. You should be able to open the door and notice it's hot in there.

Ok I'll watch it

I'll come over after work tommorow and take a look at it and test the heat element. I'll send you a txt before I leave

OK

I used the dishwasher and did the high temp. And it got them clean and dry. Before I didn't use high temp. Never had to with my others was automatic. Guess others were better machines.

Welcome to the energy efficient realm of oboma regulations. Those setting are there so the machines actually work but are defaulted to off to meet the energy star requirements. Just be thankful you don't need any new oboma water saver faucets they suck.

LOL

Watch this YouTube video. The guy has some great tips. --->

Also try and run your hot water in the sink until it gets hot then start your dishwasher on hi temp wash and heated dry settings.

I always run water til hot but thanks for the tips.

Well let me know if it's still not working and we can up the temperature on your hot water heater a little. These post oboma energy star newer machines just aren't the same as the older pre oboma energy star regulated machines were. It's a new world after 8 years of oboma.

OK

 

[NH Homesteader]

My new dishwasher, I swear it takes 2 hours to clean the dishes. I don't dry them because I don't want to up my electric bill doing something that will happen pretty quickly if I just prop the door open. But I couldn't believe how long the cycle is!

 

[Hinotori]

I don't ever use heated dry. They will dry well enough without it when I open the door. Saves me some electricity.

The dishwasher in this house is ancient. I think it takes an hour and a half. I think Mom's newer dishwasher takes 4 hours

 

[CrealCritter]

My new dishwasher, I swear it takes 2 hours to clean the dishes. I don't dry them because I don't want to up my electric bill doing something that will happen pretty quickly if I just prop the door open. But I couldn't believe how long the cycle is!

Newer ones take way longer to cycle than older ones. They reuse the nasty gray water to clean the dishes all in the name of water conservation. To meet the energy star requirements they can only consume so much fresh water now. Just like the new water saver faucets that suck. Where I can start running water for the coffee pot, go take a pee, come back and it hasn't even filled the coffee pot to over filling - completely worthless. Don't even get me started on how long it takes to fill the sink to hand wash a few dishes.

 

[CrealCritter]

I don't ever use heated dry. They will dry well enough without it when I open the door. Saves me some electricity.

The dishwasher in this house is ancient. I think it takes an hour and a half. I think Mom's newer dishwasher takes 4 hours

Yep your right, we start the dishwasher before we go to bed because it takes so long to cycle 4 hours on pots and pans setting.

 

[Lazy Gardener]

I have to remove the dirt from the dishes before putting them into the DW. I swear it would be faster to wash them by hand. But, I use the DW, because it's hard on my feet to stand in one place for long.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Those setting are there so the machines actually work but are defaulted to off to meet the energy star requirements.

I don't have a problem with that no matter WHO you think is responsible for it. Energy Star products have been around since 1992.

"Energy Star is a government-backed labeling program that helps people and organizations save money and reduce greenhouse gas emissions by identifying factories, office equipment, home appliances and electronics that have superior energy efficiency. In recent years, Energy Star ratings have been extended to some new homes, commercial and industrial facilities. Energy Star originated in 1992 as a joint program of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPAM) and the U.S. Department of Energy (DoE). In 2007, the European Union adapted Energy Star, including related standards, for all of its members. Australia and New Zealand has already adopted the program. As a result, the Energy Star symbol has become the international symbol for energy efficiency."

 

[CrealCritter]

I guess I was wrong it was department of energy under the Oboma administration that screwed up household appliances.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2018/06/27/americans-doe-regulations-dishwashers

"Former President Barack Obama issued more energy standards for household appliances during his eight years in office than any previous administration, mostly as a ploy to fight global warming. Obama’s DOE claimed such standards for everyday products would save consumers money and help the environment."

 

[NH Homesteader]

I'm used to it now, I hand wash anything I'll need in the next 3 hours lol. I do like that it uses less water because I have an ancient septic system I'm trying to make last!

 

[Hinotori]

Ancient septic here, too. Was put in around 1950. Don't ever use antibacterial soaps. They harm it. We have a lidded trash can we toss paper in. Haven't had any issues since started doing that.

Our dishwasher is on greywater so it doesn't go in the septic.