Another shocker:/

[bibliophile birds]

The pre WWII survey comparison would be invalidated by the extensive use of DDT which was discovered in the 1800's and used from 1939 through 1972. This is not to say that companies weren't allowed to exhaust the already purchased supplies of DDT; that a corporate phase out could have extended well beyond 1972 for some crops like animal feed. A study would have serious control issues.

DDT, just another one of Monsanto's little gifts to humanity...

 

[Wildsky]

I am not anti-vaccination at all, I'm against the stepped up schedule we're using to inoculate our children, I think it's harming their brains but turning their own immune system on themselves. The difference between what they do now vs. what was done when my boys were young (25 and 29 years ago) is amazing to me. Their schedule was very similar to what was done to me, back in the 50's. It's since then that they've really gone crazy with the shots, from about 1985 onwards.

I don't do the whole shot thing, but last I checked the babies and kids are expected to have 30+ before entering school. Its nuts!

I'm not that old but when I was in school there were no kids with allergies, we had one girl with diabetes in my entire school life - I never heard of ADHD, ADD and Autism.
No child I ever knew had Cancer or anything of that sort at all.

I am trying to do what is best by my kids by no shots, and as much "natural" food as possible, as little processed food as I can - one step at a time. Both were Breastfed, my dd till she was 3 years old, and I made all her food as a baby. My son who was born first only got breastmilk for 6 months, and I bought his food (knucklehead back then) but I didn't vaccinate either child.

I look in the store and I wonder why on earth there is dried potato to make mashed potato by adding water. Did people forget how to make that? That is one processed food I don't get, well that and the packets of rice - how hard is it to boil rice or potato?

 

[me&thegals]

I'm not that old but when I was in school there were no kids with allergies, we had one girl with diabetes in my entire school life - I never heard of ADHD, ADD and Autism.
No child I ever knew had Cancer or anything of that sort at all.

I'm 35, and that's my recall, too. But in talking to my mom recently about ADD, she told me that kids WERE being diagnosed back in the 70s and 80s with it and had to go to the nurse's office to get their meds. Just food for thought.

 

[ToLiveToLaugh]

A question for those of you who don't vaccinate- do you pass up ALL vaccination, or just some? Do you support MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) that have been used longer, or do you not get any?

Just curious. Only heard of not vaccinating recently, and I'm not really sure how I feel about it.

 

[Wildsky]

A question for those of you who don't vaccinate- do you pass up ALL vaccination, or just some? Do you support MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) that have been used longer, or do you not get any?

Just curious. Only heard of not vaccinating recently, and I'm not really sure how I feel about it.

I don't do any at all.

Measles Mumps and Rubella are very mild in childhood, the actual disease - a week or two and its over, and with a healthy child, nothing more than a bit of discomfort, and they will then be immune for life - unlike those who got the shot which will wear off in the teens. (if it even works)

I think folks freak out about mumps, but it is VERY rare that it effects both sides of the body (for boys) and in young boys there is no panic about becoming sterile, even in adult men it very seldom takes out both sides.

 

[FarmerDenise]

I had the mumps when I was a kid. It was very painfull and I was certainly quite miserable. But the nice part was, my mom spoiled me. I endured the pain and mom would get me any food I wanted and cut it into teeny tiny pieces, so I wouldn't have to chew.
I knew mom was doing everything she could to make me feel better and I got through it.

As much as we want to protect our children from painfull situations, I think it also makes them stronger, when they experience some and learn to deal with the pain as long as they are supported getting through it.

Life is not without pain and discomfort and IMO it is better to learn to deal with it, while you have the loving support of a mom and dad while you are young, than to have to learn when you are in your 20's and on your own (hopefully).

 

[Wildsky]

I had the mumps when I was a kid. It was very painfull and I was certainly quite miserable. But the nice part was, my mom spoiled me. I endured the pain and mom would get me any food I wanted and cut it into teeny tiny pieces, so I wouldn't have to chew.
I knew mom was doing everything she could to make me feel better and I got through it.

As much as we want to protect our children from painfull situations, I think it also makes them stronger, when they experience some and learn to deal with the pain as long as they are supported getting through it.

Life is not without pain and discomfort and IMO it is better to learn to deal with it, while you have the loving support of a mom and dad while you are young, than to have to learn when you are in your 20's and on your own (hopefully).

Very true, I remember when my son was little, he'd get fevers now and then with nothing else, and felt horrible, I'd cozy up on the floor in the living room, with pillows and blankets, and we'd watch movies together. Both my kids know they can come into our room and get into bed with us if they're scared, cold, sick, lonely or just can't sleep, they very seldom do but every now and then my dd does.
It gives them a good sense of security knowing mom and dad are making a fuss when they're sick, its good for kids to know someone cares how they feel.

My son is 10 now, and never sick, so I grab hugs and stuff when I can I hugged him in the kitchen a few minutes ago. Good thing his friends weren't looking!

Its good to learn about the different feelings of being sick and how to make those better... my son wasn't feeling well a little while ago - we had a cold going through the family and I told him to get in a nice hot bath, he didn't think it was such a great idea, until he did it, and felt better. Its those little things we can pass on that will make it easier for them to handle illness as they get older.