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so, this is just a rant but you guys always have such sound advice that i'm coming to you to vent.

how do you convince parents that you aren't a child and that they need to respect boundaries and privacy? i'm 27 years old and very self reliant and i still can't seem to make my parents realize that they have to respect my privacy.

from 18 to 21 i lived away, on my own, while going to college. from 21 to 26 i was traveling/abroad for 10 months out of the year, so i used my parents' house as my home base. last year when i took a "less active" position with my organization, i moved into the cottage on our farm (which was unlivable before that, but i renovated it). my parents have a key so that they can get in when i'm gone and make sure the house doesn't explode and whatnot. they have a few things stored in the attic here, also.

when i was using their house as home base, i had to repeatedly tell my mother it wasn't ok for her to open my mail. she saw it as doing me a favor so she could tell me if important things came in, but to me it was a huge violation of privacy. i finally made her understand that, but she really still thinks i was being ridiculous.

today, i came home from a meeting and instantly knew something was amiss. for a second i actually thought i'd been robbed. then i noticed a note on the counter. my mom had dropped by to get something out of the attic and decided she would "tidy up" while she was there.

now, i'm not the most organized person alive but i'm not a slob. things just go where i know i can find them and eventually get put away. she FILED my work documents! she SORTED my mail! she picked up my laundry! of course, to her, she was just being a helpful mom. to me, it's completely inappropriate. now i have to find where she put everything and can't shake the feeling that my privacy has been completely violated.

when i asked her about it she got mad because i was upset. she said i was ungrateful. she just couldn't understand why i wasn't thrilled that she'd done it. and i just don't know what to say. i told her i would never go to her house and go through her things.

then she wanted to know what i had to hide. that's the only thing that makes sense to her- that her grown daughter must be hiding things from her if she doesn't want her to riffle in her belongings. i feel like i'm 16 and suspected of harboring cigarettes in my sock drawer.

what am i to do? :rolleyes:
 

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THe only way to avoid that is to not take lodgings from your parents, and never give them a key to your place. Are you paying rent? If you are, you can always change the lock...
 

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:hugs As long as you live under your parents roof (including their cottage), they will expect you to live by their rules. You do have a choice... it's yours to make.
 

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Gut instinct and knee-jerk reaction......Um....move out. Having a conversation isn't working. Your mom can't let go, and is WAY invasive, imo.

Or have a sit-down conversation, a very formal one, with her and your dad. Maybe with their minister if they are practicing, attending, whatever. At a place other than your...um....their cottage.

I noticed that you said on "our farm." Is it their farm? Or "our" farm? Be sure you are clear of the relationship, too.

It sounds like it could be a fantastic living arrangement if you can work it out. :hugs
 

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Move out and save your relationship with your Mom. She feels she is being helpful, you feel invaded. Seperate living spaces will probably go a long way in saving and preserving those close family ties.
 

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Some parents have a hard time admitting that their children have grown up, especially if the child is still at home. As the parent of a 25 year old daughter that lives at home (and would absolutely LOVE to be on her own), I know.

With my 30 year old son it was a bit different. When he turned 18, we move out. He was working full time, making good money, and we sold him our home and bought our place in the country, 600 miles away. That was ten years ago, and we still forget that he is an adult.

Our daughter though, has always lived with us, except when away for college. She was just getting on her feet and ready to move out, when the economy caught her and she had to change her plans. She starts a new job tomorrow, and you can believe getting out on her own is at the top of her list.

Do your best to be patient with you mom. You want to be independent and it's hard not being so, but it's hard on her too. Like Morel said, if you are paying rent, change the locks. If you are not, well maybe you should, if only to exert a little more control over your own life. But most of all, have patience.
 

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yeah, i'm realizing that them having a key is not the best idea. it's just the way things are around here... we all have keys to all the houses on the farm (god, we sound like the Kennedy compound).

i could change the locks i guess. my "legal rights" to the cottage are extremely hazy. it is technically farm property which means that it belongs to my grandparents, parents, 3 uncles, myself and my sister (grandparents being the head of the farm company). i don't pay rent. i paid for the renovations with the future plan of using the cottage as part of my business on the farm, which is events and catering. as far as that is concerned, i have contracts with the farm that any money made from the use of the cottage (once i'm not living in it) goes to me and that i control who/when/how it is used.

where all that gets me, i'm not completely sure though. i hate the idea that i'd have to tell my mom she was trespassing or something along those lines, but i really don't want a repeat of this situation.
 

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girl im 34 and bought my house 10 years ago and it took my mom almost 5 years before she knew when to shut her mouth. My house is 30 min from my mom on purpose. She comes to my house every weekend which i dont mind. She at first thought it was ok to comment on the way I kept my house. She actually thought it was ok to comment on every aspect of my life. She now knows that I will snap if she gives me her opinion. I tell her when she has 3 kids and is single then go ahead and comment. She cant even take all 3 of my kids for more than 12 hours before she is ready to rip her hair out.
After I had my first child I had to move in with my mother and had to follow her rules. I had 15,000 to put on a house in a year and a half because I was so ready to get out and live my life.
 

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Well lets see, I agree in the sense that if you are living rent free, that your mom still looks at things as "you're my daughter, and I can look through your things as long as you live here" However, if you are paying rent, I would maybe ask to sign either a rental agreement, or some other type of privacy agreement.

My DH's mother used to go through his mail all the time before he met me. Then I sent him a letter and she read it.....I advised her that opening other peoples' mail is a Federal offense, punishable by time in PRISON, not jail, PRISON. She has stopped that little practice. (sometimes the mailman will deliver the stray piece to her house by mistake).

I'm one for privacy, and if my son was to live in a similar situation, I'd stay the heck out. But thats me. Unless I noticed a complete change of behavior, I'd stay away. But thats me.

Sounds to me like she misses being a mom. I used to say to mine "Ok, one more time, how old am I?" She would get mad but after awhile got the point.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what good advice I can give....just reading your post made me mad, haha sorry! :(
 

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freemotion said:
I noticed that you said on "our farm." Is it their farm? Or "our" farm? Be sure you are clear of the relationship, too.

It sounds like it could be a fantastic living arrangement if you can work it out. :hugs
gettinaclue said:
Seperate living spaces will probably go a long way in saving and preserving those close family ties.
the farm is owned by the family trust, of which i am a shareholder (we have several businesses which we jointly own as a family). my parents own the parcel of land their house actually sits on, but it is surrounded on 3 sides by the farm. i live over a mile away (as the crow flies) on the actual farm. so we do have separate living spaces.

it's a fantastic living arrangement 90% of the time. my dad and i both work on the farm, but get to go to our own homes at the end of the day. my sister and my niece live over the hill from me. my grandparents live on the other side of the woods. it's the best when you want to have an impromptu bbq! we just congregate at the lake and hang out. i just can't give all that up. there has to be middle ground.
 
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