Cannabis as medicine for real, anyone?

[Homesteadmom]

There is lot's of misinformation out there, mostly from people who have never used it. Having smoked it for 30 years I can assure you it is not physically addicting. Physical addiction includes physical withdrawal symptoms. That doesn't happen with pot. It does give you a very deep longing and puts you in a bad mood for 2 or 3 days.

A lot of misinformation from people who do or have used it too! I hate to tell you this but these are withdrawl symptoms!!!

Okay personal experience ds#1 used it & still fights the addiction to use it again(he will for life). When dsWas using it he stole money from us to buy more. Never had any money left from his paycheck 3 days after getting paid. And he would be so lazy it was not funny. He lied constantly too. Not using it he works better & harder & has money now too. Just like other drugs & alcohol too, each individual reacts different to it. Some people can drink every day for 20 yrs & then one day stop no problem. Some people can smoke ciggs for 30+ yrs & stop cold turkey one day no problem, others can not & they don't smoke as long.

And to the person who said you can not compare pot to meth or cocain, wrong, as they are all halucinagenics. HAving been a nurse they teach you the different classes of drugs(legal & illegal). No one should drive or operate any heavy machinery after taking any of these drugs, including cold medicines & pain meds too.

Put the pot into a tincture or salve & sell it that way as then you are not getting the brain fog/damage, lung damage, liver damage(raises cholestorol), addiction & impairment issues.

 

[1acrefarm]

One other point to add. Many times when you go to the doctor you are actually paying to be a lab rat. The fda pushes this crap through as a revolutionary new cure. People go to the doctor to get this miracle cure. The doctor happily prescribes it to them thinking its doing to help and anticipating the kickback he gets for prescribing that particular medicine. You go get it filled and take it. The medicine don't help all that much and you now either have a bad heart valve or your bleeding in a delicate area. The next thing you know the FDA is saying oops and pulling it off the shelves. The class action lawsuits are also brewing up at that point. Way more people die or get injured by properly taking prescriptions than by abusing cannabis.

 

[Homesteadmom]

All the more reason to not run to the Dr. for every little ailment. Most illnesses will run their course & be done with you no meds needed.

 

[1acrefarm]

And to the person who said you can not compare pot to meth or cocain, wrong, as they are all halucinagenics. HAving been a nurse

Neither of these drugs are hallucinogens. If you are a nurse you should know that.

 

[Homesteadmom]

And to the person who said you can not compare pot to meth or cocain, wrong, as they are all halucinagenics. HAving been a nurse

Neither of these drugs are hallucinogens. If you are a nurse you should know that.

They all cause hallucinations thank you therefore they are!!!

 

[the simple life]

This thread is going down a bad road.
Its gotten way off topic, and into he said she said back and forth.
No good can come of this anymore. Let it go and have a nice day.

 

[Wifezilla]

Hallucinogens?

OMG

Seriously???

I am not advocating the use of any drug...but can we discuss this rationally? WITHOUT "Reefer-Madness"-like exaggeration?

 

[Big Daddy]

I never even experienced hallucinations on acid. Well I saw some things that were altered like trails but never saw anything that wasn't there. I've heard of pink elephants on alcohol. I pass out before I get that far though.

I'm sorry I said I was leaving. I'm going to go lay an egg.

 

[FarmerChick]

Lets shut her down...this ain't leading no where good at all.

 

[dacjohns]

Are we arguing semantics again? Are we downplaying things? Do we need a dictionary? Do we want to go with the legal classification of drugs or common usage?

I would think that "trails" are a form of hallucination.

Meth and cocaine are stimulants even if they might cause hallucinations.

Alcohol is a depressant although it looks like it gets its own classification.

Cannabis gets its own classification.


http://www.nicd.us/drugclassifications.html


And from the University of Wisconsin:

Physical Dependence
Two decades ago, addiction medicine doctors and counselors believed that the difference between substance abuse and substance dependence was whether tolerance and withdrawal were present. Now it is known that, although tolerance or withdrawal may occur in individuals with addiction, the condition of addiction can exist without any sign of tolerance or withdrawal. Still, a common question of interest is, does marijuana produce physical dependence (that is, tolerance or withdrawal)?

By the twenty-first century, the answers to these questions are clear. Tolerance does develop to THC (the active chemical in marijuana). Moreover, withdrawal definitely occurs in some users. The effects of this withdrawal are generally the opposite of the effects of intoxication: anxiety and insomnia instead of relaxation; loss of appetite rather than hunger; excessive salivation instead of dry mouth; and also decreased pulse, irritability, and sometimes tremor. People who have used marijuana as a way to control underlying anger may also experience irritability, increased mood swings, and even an increase in aggressive behavior, as symptoms of withdrawal.

http://www.uhs.wisc.edu/display_story.jsp?id=736&cat_id=38



Things have changed since I last had any training on this subject.