Elimination Diet has alleviated my RA symptoms

Denim Deb

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OK, I didn't read all the links, but what I found interesting is that many of the symptoms of MSG are also the symptoms for Meniere's. I try to avoid prepackaged food as much as possible as it is, and now I'm wondering, since my MD is not anywhere near as bad as what others live with if MSG is at least partially to blame.
 

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Denim Deb said:
OK, I didn't read all the links, but what I found interesting is that many of the symptoms of MSG are also the symptoms for Meniere's. I try to avoid prepackaged food as much as possible as it is, and now I'm wondering, since my MD is not anywhere near as bad as what others live with if MSG is at least partially to blame.
There is a WIDE range of symptoms with MSG! Some are documented, some not. What I found with DD's reactions were they were not widely documented, but it is definately MSG she reacted to. MSG is an excitotoxin and can cause many symptoms. I'd definately look into it being an aggravator if not a cause of your symptoms.

A few other things with naturally occuring MSG...beets and mushrooms. I kind of miss mushrooms ;)
 

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I know that if you are very sensitive to glutamate's, then bone broth/stock cannot be consumed either.
 

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Bubblingbrooks said:
I know that if you are very sensitive to glutamate's, then bone broth/stock cannot be consumed either.
Anything high in protein slow cooked will free glutumates. Most people have a certain tolerance or threshhold to the ammount they can consume that the body can process at one time. DD can have a little bit of MSG so we still slow cook beans and meats, but I keep a close eye out when we do to make sure she doesn't go over the threshhold of her tolerance level. I won't cook something like that 2 days in a row.

Another thing about MSG and why it is such a tough diagnosis...it can be up to 4 days from point of consumption before the body reacts to toxic levels of it. :/ It was 3 days on the elimination diet before DD reacted to the sausage with MSG. It is best to go slowly with reintroducing foods, just a couple per week until you can narrow it down. I purposely gave her a little bit of MSG when we first suspected it as the culprit and was going to wait a week...sure enough 3 days later her little lip swelled. It wasn't as bad because her body wasn't over loaded and went down within a couple hours, but we knew then that that was what it was. After just a couple more days of taking out MSG she quit having sypmtoms at all.

It was really really HARD to get ALL of the MSG out of her diet!! NO breakfast cereals, NO fast food at all, no storebought breads, several spices eliminated, several juices/drinks eliminated, all chips except for plain had to go, everything pre seasoned had to go. Back to plain old homegrown, home cooked meals. Most prepared sauces and condiments had to go as well. Homemade ice cream and no lunch meats. We worked at getting it all gone from her diet for a year because it is hidden under different names :th We finally have it out, and are working on reintroducing a couple suspect, but not completely eliminated food items such as certain brands of store bread and bologna :sick which she loves. We have found a few items she can have with suspect ingredients, and others that she can't tolerate at all.

It's tough because the grandparents like to take her out to eat and MIL doesn't cook :rolleyes: so she doesn't get to stay there as often as she used to, and she has to take her own lunch to school everyday, but it's worth the effort in the long run. She is of the age that she knows everything and hates the diet right now and wants to just be free to eat whatever :smack :lol: but we are sticking to it and trying to keep her well.
 

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peachykeen said:
Bubblingbrooks said:
One possible causer of eczema is a certain vaccine...which one I cannot remember at the moment.
I will post it when I find out.

But, the two main foods that cause it, are gluten and dairy (usually processed).
Ah I would be very interested to know what vaccine. I did not have it my whole life, it got especially bad after I was in my early teens and progressed to being very bad in my adulthood.

You know I quit dairy for two months (but did not quit gluten at that time) and there was no improvement in my eczema. I am quit happy dairy has not caused any flareups now that I have added it back in. Gluten is on eof the very last things I am adding back in. I suspect it or soy is my issue.
Tetanus and smallpox are the two known to cause eczema for sure.
 

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Neko-chan said:
I've had the tetanus for sure, but I'm too young to have gotten the small pox vaccine. Ah well. It's only on my scalp, but it still sucks.
You sure its actually eczema?
Cause you could have adult cradle cap, which is actually a yeast infection.
 

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Wait is that when you get bumps and almost little zits and you ITCH? Organic tea tree shampoo & conditioner helps but doesn't take it away.
 

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MsPony said:
Wait is that when you get bumps and almost little zits and you ITCH? Organic tea tree shampoo & conditioner helps but doesn't take it away.
Those are just a band aid though.
Probiotics and an elimination diet to determine cause, so the issue can be gone once and for all are best.
I have had issue with small patches since birth, but once we found I had Celiacs, and I went gluten free, I have been free of the awful stuff for good!
 

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I'm going on the paleo diet (what bbh is on, only w/ dairy and nightshades sans potatoes)

If its dairy, my scalp is SOL :p
 
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