Families and the Mortgage Crises

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The concept of placing the common good above the striving for personal wealth is a revolutionary concept because one has to reconcile the added factor of inherited wealth. I hope we can sort out the best direction to move our country toward.
 

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I recall that there was a period of time during the 80s when things got tight like this and there were some people who had to move back in with their parents to make ends meet. That recession lasted a couple of years if I remember correctly.

While I remember the 0s, the flavor of that recession was much different from what we currently face.

I think this is a major turning point for how our society functions, and it's about time.
 

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While I remember the 0s, the flavor of that recession was much different from what we currently face.

I think this is a major turning point for how our society functions, and it's about time.

So you think this crisis is going to turn out for the better somehow, even
with how things are going now?

And yes, I agree that other recessions didn't feel the same at all.
 

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I think this is a major turning point for how our society functions, and it's about time.


I agree that there we may be encountering an enormous opportunity for social and economic change. As aspects of the old economic dynamic become increasingly inadequate to cope with the situation, new (and hopefully more just) methods must be tried.
 

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I agree that there we may be encountering an enormous opportunity for social and economic change. As aspects of the old economic dynamic become increasingly inadequate to cope with the situation, new (and hopefully more just) methods must be tried.


I hope the momentum behind alternative energy will keep growing. If we don't take advantage of the need for change now, we'll get jerked around by OPEC and other foreign countries forever.
 

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You're right, Sage, OPEC is a great big monkey on our back and the only way we'll break free of their grasp is by turning to alternative forms of energy, renewable resources that foreign interests can't withhold at their pleasure.
 

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You're right, Sage, OPEC is a great big monkey on our back and the only way we'll break free of their grasp is by turning to alternative forms of energy, renewable resources that foreign interests can't withhold at their pleasure.

It occurs to me that we probably have no choice. The Chinese are entering their industrial revolution, and their consumption rates have skyrocketed.

I have wondered if the Chinese might not actually use force to keep the oil fields, once they realize that their industrialization is happening as the world passes peak oil production?

We don't need to have any interest in that oil if it means conflict with China.
 

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This thread reminds me of a film I watched yesterday. It was End Game by Alex Jones.

I'd highly recommend it to anyone interested in this thread. If you're already familiar with Alex Jones, you know that there are going to be seemingly outrageous accusations in the film... And after considering what he's saying and paying attention to the quotes in the film, I believe that there is much truth to them. I assume that if he was fabricating quotes, somebody would be calling him on it... I'd hope so anyway.
 

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I have wondered if the Chinese might not actually use force to keep the oil fields, once they realize that their industrialization is happening as the world passes peak oil production?

That would certainly fit into their general MO if that were to happen,
wouldn't it? Of course, so would most any country, I'd think.
 

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The Chinese may be doing us a favour if it comes to that, because then we'd be forced to find alternate fuels and energy that can be made right at home.
SageMother, I agree, you can just about smell revolution in the air. It may not be anything that can be controlled, like a storm, but once it passes I think we'll find a better country, changed in the way it needs changing.
 

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