For those who've been hit by blight

[~gd]

Do you know what the bacteria are (should be on the label)? The reason I ask is often the culture can be kept alive and muliplied when you start with a clean culture. I don't have the formal training (college) and most of my practial experience is in growing bacteria that cause disease [for vaccines NOT for WMD] usually the bigest problem is to keep the strain alive to package and deliver to the user. If we can figure it out you could have an unlimited supply to treat your plants/soil with. There are others here that know more formal microbiology than I but we used to start with a two drop sample and grow up to 2000gallons of culture for harvest. ~gd

That's an excellent question, and I can see the practicality of your point.

However, the situation is weird.

I'm sure Actinovate can be purchased in a labelled container, but I bought mine as a powder in a plastic baggy from a garden-supply that's about a forty-minute drive from my place. It just looked like... well, a tan-colored powder. It was cold from a fridge when I got it. Twelve bucks for an ounce (by weight) - by volume, maybe three ounces. They gave me a photocopied sheet of instructions for mixing it with water, and they told me to drive it home and refrigerate it until I was ready to use it. I began mixing it up and using it with the seedlings within a week or so of purchase, and had used the rest of it (in the potato patch and the greenhouse beds) within five weeks, I believe. All gone.

Possibly there is an online site that could be found with Google that will say what the bacterium is.

But I have complete confidence your idea would work, ~gd. Buy some, make a culture, proliferate the culture, etc.

I meant my earlier post to imply that the bacteria will proliferate in my soil, both outdoors and in the greenhouse.

Found it! S. lydicus protected by patents and trade secrets both. I will not because I cannot tell you how to get around their patent. It would not be ethical if I could. I will say this much it does not proliferate in the soil it lives in and off the plants treated with it [like the bactaria that fixes Nitrogen for its host plant] so you may need to buy a new supply next season. Other than that you can keep the host plants alive in your green house and sprout seeds around the host and hope that they transfer to the seedlings.....[i would buy a fresh supply]
Just for the record the way the stuff was sold to you is illegal under EPA regulations. It is a registered Fungicide and can not be sold without a label. [it is illegal for you to use it except as allowed by the label] don't worry they only arrest you if you cause a eco disaster.
Good luck and thanks for bringing this great Orgsnic product to our attention. There are few gardening disasters worst than having watched a tomato ripening only to find the crop wiped by blight. ~gd Opps you are in Canada and US EPA does not apply.

 

[Joel_BC]

Found it! S. lydicus protected by patents and trade secrets both. I will not because I cannot tell you how to get around their patent. It would not be ethical if I could. I will say this much it does not proliferate in the soil it lives in and off the plants treated with it [like the bactaria that fixes Nitrogen for its host plant] so you may need to buy a new supply next season. Other than that you can keep the host plants alive in your green house and sprout seeds around the host and hope that they transfer to the seedlings.....[i would buy a fresh supply]
Just for the record the way the stuff was sold to you is illegal under EPA regulations. It is a registered Fungicide and can not be sold without a label. [it is illegal for you to use it except as allowed by the label] don't worry they only arrest you if you cause a eco disaster.

Good luck and thanks for bringing this great Orgsnic product to our attention. There are few gardening disasters worst than having watched a tomato ripening only to find the crop wiped by blight. ~gd Opps you are in Canada and US EPA does not apply.

Very interesting. ~gd. Thanks for digging around and interpreting the info.

You wrote: "I will say this much it does not proliferate in the soil it lives in and off the plants treated with it [like the bactaria that fixes Nitrogen for its host plant] so you may need to buy a new supply next season."

Can you tell me why the bacterium won't live in the soil & through the winter? I'm eager to learn.

Lord willing & the creeks don't rise, I should be able to muy more Actinovate next spring. But still, I'm wondering why the bacteria won't perpetuate.

 

[luvinlife offthegrid]

Yes, please do tell. I heard from the Cornell Extension horticulturist that it doesn't overwinter in the soil in my county as well. I just don't know why.

 

[~gd]

Found it! S. lydicus protected by patents and trade secrets both. I will not because I cannot tell you how to get around their patent. It would not be ethical if I could. I will say this much it does not proliferate in the soil it lives in and off the plants treated with it [like the bactaria that fixes Nitrogen for its host plant] so you may need to buy a new supply next season. Other than that you can keep the host plants alive in your green house and sprout seeds around the host and hope that they transfer to the seedlings.....[i would buy a fresh supply]
Just for the record the way the stuff was sold to you is illegal under EPA regulations. It is a registered Fungicide and can not be sold without a label. [it is illegal for you to use it except as allowed by the label] don't worry they only arrest you if you cause a eco disaster.

Good luck and thanks for bringing this great Orgsnic product to our attention. There are few gardening disasters worst than having watched a tomato ripening only to find the crop wiped by blight. ~gd Opps you are in Canada and US EPA does not apply.

Very interesting. ~gd. Thanks for digging around and interpreting the info.

You wrote: "I will say this much it does not proliferate in the soil it lives in and off the plants treated with it [like the bactaria that fixes Nitrogen for its host plant] so you may need to buy a new supply next season."

Can you tell me why the bacterium won't live in the soil & through the winter? I'm eager to learn.

Lord willing & the creeks don't rise, I should be able to muy more Actinovate next spring. But still, I'm wondering why the bacteria won't perpetuate.

Well it isn't a parasite but it does depend on a host plant. I can't tell you exactly what it gets from the host nor what other services it might provide to the host [other than protecting against fungi] there are literally hundreds of partderships (sp) like this when you are dealing with micros many are so simple that they can not exist and reproduce by themselves. I was hoping that some one that had formal training in the subject would pop up, you have reached my limit. Sorry! ~gd