Greetings from South Africa

[flowerbug]

looking forwards to it. i am not able to full permaculture stuff here but i am aware of many of the ideas and techniques so i'm going to enjoy reading along.

 

[akroberts]

Welcome to SS from Northern California. Looking forward to seeing pictures and videos. If you are wanting to plant some certain veggies that normally would not do good hopefully someone else here has some good advice for you. Have you tried planting corn. It might do good if you can plant it in rows facing North - South.

 

[baymule]

Much hated Bermuda! Hahaha! I’m in East Texas, Bermuda is used for grazing animals and makes fine hay. I have Bermuda growing on my 25 acres and Bahia grass, plus many forbs. Bermuda does well in the heat in the southern United States.

Why is Bermuda so hated?

 

[akroberts]

Much hated Bermuda! Hahaha! I’m in East Texas, Bermuda is used for grazing animals and makes fine hay. I have Bermuda growing on my 25 acres and Bahia grass, plus many forbs. Bermuda does well in the heat in the southern Inited States.

Why is Bermuda so hated?

Even if I have Bermuda grass I wouldn't know it. The only grass I know is crab grass. I would love to get it gone but it's going to take a long time to get there

 

[baymule]

Even if I have Bermuda grass I wouldn't know it. The only grass I know is crab grass. I would love to get it gone but it's going to take a long time to get there

I have some crab grass too, also some Dallis grass and several others that together make up a good mixed field. Not much grass now, due to winter kill. I have a type of brome, it only gets 12 to 14 inches tall. It comes in the winter and dies back in the spring.

You can use a plant I. D. App to take pictures of what grows on your place and then you will know what you have.

 

[flowerbug]

some of the grasses people bring in for animal grazing are not really adapted to an area as well as the native plants and they may also crowd out or eliminated native grasses which then affects things like encouraging fire. the local animals and insects are also usually affected. if you can avoid bringing in invasive species it is usually a good idea.

i was just reading about Tropical Soda Apples. oy, now there's another one you don't want to have showing up.

 

[Hinotori]

some of the grasses people bring in for animal grazing are not really adapted to an area as well as the native plants and they may also crowd out or eliminated native grasses which then affects things like encouraging fire. the local animals and insects are also usually affected. if you can avoid bringing in invasive species it is usually a good idea.

i was just reading about Tropical Soda Apples. oy, now there's another one you don't want to have showing up.

Himalayan blackberries here. They take over and can grow 40 foot canes. Spread where they touch and by seed. Sides of the highways here are similar to southern ones that have been eaten by kudzu. We have blackberries that do that.

 

[Karoo Permaculture]

Much hated Bermuda! Hahaha! I’m in East Texas, Bermuda is used for grazing animals and makes fine hay. I have Bermuda growing on my 25 acres and Bahia grass, plus many forbs. Bermuda does well in the heat in the southern United States.

Why is Bermuda so hated?

I think the below quote sums up very well why many people out there hate Bermuda:

Why I Hate Bermuda Grass. It is more invasive than Attila The Hun. Bermuda grass can grow up through eighteen inches of raised bed. It quickly spreads both through roots and above ground stems, and heads straight for your flower beds and vegetable patches, where it will out-compete anything you are trying to grow.

 

[baymule]

I think the below quote sums up very well why many people out there hate Bermuda:

Why I Hate Bermuda Grass. It is more invasive than Attila The Hun. Bermuda grass can grow up through eighteen inches of raised bed. It quickly spreads both through roots and above ground stems, and heads straight for your flower beds and vegetable patches, where it will out-compete anything you are trying to grow.

Same thing here. Bermuda in a garden is an ongoing fight. Or you can make rows wide enough to just mow it down and I’ve done that too.
That very tenacity is what makes it such a good pasture grass for livestock. It takes a beating from hooves, hard grazing and given a rest, comes right back. While it may not produce much in a drought, it goes dormant and does not die. The rains come and Bermuda comes roaring back. You just can’t kill the stuff, burning it doesn’t even kill it. Poison it, it will die, but will find a way to sneak back in. LOL

Here in East Texas, in a good year a Bermuda hay field can produce 3 or 4 cuttings. A bad year is 1 or 2 cuttings. Because of our warm temperatures in the fall, even with a summer drought, there usually is a late cutting for hay.

Bahia is another introduced grass and does well in our heat. It is more drought resistant than Bermuda but doesn’t produce as much hay.

 

[Karoo Permaculture]

Same thing here. Bermuda in a garden is an ongoing fight. Or you can make rows wide enough to just mow it down and I’ve done that too.
That very tenacity is what makes it such a good pasture grass for livestock. It takes a beating from hooves, hard grazing and given a rest, comes right back. While it may not produce much in a drought, it goes dormant and does not die. The rains come and Bermuda comes roaring back. You just can’t kill the stuff, burning it doesn’t even kill it. Poison it, it will die, but will find a way to sneak back in. LOL

Here in East Texas, in a good year a Bermuda hay field can produce 3 or 4 cuttings. A bad year is 1 or 2 cuttings. Because of our warm temperatures in the fall, even with a summer drought, there usually is a late cutting for hay.

Bahia is another introduced grass and does well in our heat. It is more drought resistant than Bermuda but doesn’t produce as much hay.

That tenacity is exactly what im after.

Thanks, I will take a look at Bahia and if I can source it somewhere here in South Africa.