How bad is Red Bull?

[Dace]

Don't even get me started!!!!

No no....I want you to get started! Really I want to know about what is in this stuff! I know it is bad for you but I need facts for my friend. I care that she is putting this stuff into her already compromised body and she is on several meds and I am sure RB creates issues for her that she is not aware of!

She does have a decent diet, still eat processed foods but also eats a wide range of fruits and veggies daily.

I just need some facts about this stuff to help show her it is worse for her body than she thinks!

Wanda...I had no idea! That is crazy. I am so sorry about your friend!

 

[Big Daddy]

I have a good friend who is 53. He started doing that crud about a year ago. Drinks the Monster stuff. 3 cans a day. He gained about 25 lbs over 6 months. I talked him into the low sugar kind so he lost the weight, but he is still drinking 3 cans a day. He takes anti depressants and muscle relaxers and uses pain patches. I got him a job at the same place as me so he could have health care. Thank goodness he sure needs it. He was an independent before and he's always had stomach problems. His first week on the job he had to be taken to the emergency room and spent a week in the hospital.

At any rate he'll probably kill himself with these energy drinks.

 

[freemotion]

Anyone have a good recipe for Diet Coke?

We call it Diet Chemicals. Unfortunately my husband is addicted to the stuff, he can go through two 2 liter bottles a day if I can't steer him to something else. He tells me water doesn't quench his thirst. Right.

He needs to see some info on the connection between aspartame and macular degeneration (I had a two liter a day habit and was diagnosed with MD at age 40. No one in my family has/had it. I have 72 first cousins, not counting spouses!!!) Also MS.

I stopped cold turkey, and learned really fast that there is something very addictive in that stuff and it is not the caffeine. My mouth watered for over a year if I saw someone with a diet soda in their hands. Seven years later, I still get a craving now and then. I haven't touched a molecule of aspartame since. The prospect of blindness is very motivating.

 

[freemotion]

Don't even get me started!!!!

No no....I want you to get started! Really I want to know about what is in this stuff! I know it is bad for you but I need facts for my friend. I care that she is putting this stuff into her already compromised body and she is on several meds and I am sure RB creates issues for her that she is not aware of!

She does have a decent diet, still eat processed foods but also eats a wide range of fruits and veggies daily.

I just need some facts about this stuff to help show her it is worse for her body than she thinks!

Wanda...I had no idea! That is crazy. I am so sorry about your friend!

I'd have to see a label again....HFCS, for one. Lupus and RA are both auto-immune disorders. The body attacts itself, in effect. So the immune system needs to be balanced. This is where many people....and MD's.....get off track.

Many people think that if you strengthen the immune system with these diseases that you will increase the effects of the disease. If you weaken it, you might weaken the disease. This is over-simplification and is false reasoning.

You want to avoid things that will PUSH the immune system response, like echinacia (sp? brainfreeze!), but rather, balance the immune system through a healthy lifestyle. Proper nutrition is a key here, since exercise can be difficult to impossible in a flare-up. A diet high in antioxidants, and lots of high quality supplements are called for here. I have heard great stories from docs I work with, helping their patients dramatically.

Sugar weakens the immune system and increases systemic inflammation, which will make all symptoms much worse, and set the person up for major flare-ups and a lot of pain.

 

[Dace]

Anyone have a good recipe for Diet Coke?

We call it Diet Chemicals. Unfortunately my husband is addicted to the stuff, he can go through two 2 liter bottles a day if I can't steer him to something else. He tells me water doesn't quench his thirst. Right.

He needs to see some info on the connection between aspartame and macular degeneration (I had a two liter a day habit and was diagnosed with MD at age 40. No one in my family has/had it. I have 72 first cousins, not counting spouses!!!) Also MS.

I stopped cold turkey, and learned really fast that there is something very addictive in that stuff and it is not the caffeine. My mouth watered for over a year if I saw someone with a diet soda in their hands. Seven years later, I still get a craving now and then. I haven't touched a molecule of aspartame since. The prospect of blindness is very motivating.

I agree about something addicting in diet coke. I started drinking them for about a year (several years ago) and I would easily drink 3-4 a day! It was a hard habit to break too.

 

[FarmerChick]

connection between aspartame
____________

bad stuff. pure and simple

I loved diet pepsi. it was my water, my drink thru the day. dranks tons of it. and to quit was hard. NOW, after cold turkey, all diet drinks taste so chemical (and they are)----every now and then a soda for change of taste and never does it "satisfy me"

So---how to make the break. yes like anything in this world.


Each person must do it on their own.
Hey we can't save the world.
We can't eat for others.
We can't drink for others.
We can suggest, and chat and all that----but in the end, every single person will do what they want.


So hey, it has to be left to the person.

We can not enforce food or drink on people. At some point crap is out there that will harm us, we all know that, and don't think for one moment anyone "doesn't know the true harm in it all"---they do, they take the risk, weigh their position and do what they want.

Personal responsibility.
It comes down to that for me.

 

[FarmerChick]

I have a good friend who is 53. He started doing that crud about a year ago. Drinks the Monster stuff. 3 cans a day. He gained about 25 lbs over 6 months. I talked him into the low sugar kind so he lost the weight, but he is still drinking 3 cans a day. He takes anti depressants and muscle relaxers and uses pain patches. I got him a job at the same place as me so he could have health care. Thank goodness he sure needs it. He was an independent before and he's always had stomach problems. His first week on the job he had to be taken to the emergency room and spent a week in the hospital.

At any rate he'll probably kill himself with these energy drinks.

And he knows how his life is proceeding.
And he is willing to "go there"

We can say a bit, but each person is "on their own will" thru this lifetime.

You learn, accept, move forward or stagnate. To me it is almost not "help-able"

is helpable a word?
LOL-LOL

 

[Dace]

Here you go Free.....Work your magic!


Carbonated water, sucrose, glucose, citric acid, sodium citrates, magnesium carbonate, glucuronolactone, inositol, niacinamide, calcium-pantothenate, pyridoxine HCL, B-12, nat. & artificial colors

 

[FarmerChick]

sodium citrates, magnesium carbonate, glucuronolactone, inositol, niacinamide, calcium-pantothenate, pyridoxine HCL, B-12, nat. & artificial colors


first 4 I know
rest ?
what the H.....
LOL

 

[freemotion]

Here you go Free.....Work your magic!


Carbonated water, sucrose, glucose, citric acid, sodium citrates, magnesium carbonate, glucuronolactone, inositol, niacinamide, calcium-pantothenate, pyridoxine HCL, B-12, nat. & artificial colors

Good grief! You don't even need to research all the ingredients. There are so many easy ones, there are enough reasons not to drink this poison. Just the sugars, which we already know some of the stuff that does to you. Citric acid also contains msg, the way it is made from corn nowadays. I used to thing "Oranges! Yum!" when I saw that on a label. Not anymore.

Blech!

Yes, do tell your friends now and then. Yes, they will do what they want in the long run. But I stopped aspartame when a client spent about a minute telling me what she had just researched after feeling icky after eating a "low carb" yogurt. Within the week, I had an eye appointment, and told the doc that I was having difficulty reading and that the prescription wasn't helping. He took a closer look than he normally would at forty-year-old eyeballs, and bingo. Macular degeneration. I was googling the minute I got home.