make way for american environmentalism!
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It's great that a citizen of Colorado, who didn't want the 1976 Olympics because of possible environmental impact, would post a thread regarding abuse in the politics of the Florida Everglades. I salute you for your concern. I am also concerned, too, even though the center of Illinois has been developed for over 150 years now. The complexities of environmental politics makes it very difficult for anyone to make a positive impact on the environment. There is also mounting evidence that the land can make great recovery from natural and man-made abuse. Here are three examples:
1) 1980, Mount St. Helens explodes.
The experts through it would take a minimum of one generation, 25 years for the land to come back. They discovered the streams, trees and fish had begun to recover after about 5 years, and now continues to recover
2) 1989, Black Hills, SD wildfires
We visited one month after fires very much like the 2009 California fires, destroyed great swaths of the Black Hills. (We didn't cancel our reservations to the French Creek Horse Camp, even though it looked like a ghost camp in August, 1989, when usually you can't get one spot unless your reserve 5 months ahead.)
3 years later, we visited again and saw great new growth. The Forest Service now gathers and stacks any compustable vegetation--tree and otherwise--in tepee-like piles, which they burn in mid-winter when there is plenty of snow to contain them. Now, you wouldn't even know there was a fire, by looking.
3) 2000, article regarding 5,000 acres of reclaimed swampland in the center of Illinois
Amazingly, acreage which had been in production for nearly 100 years, and was reclaimed in 1995, was sprouting vegetation from seeds that had remained dormant in the soil for decades. Also, native fish and native birds have returned to the new/old swampland--Illinois is actually a big, damp, swamp that the farmers have tiled so we can have some dry land
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In MHO, it is government allowing sprawl (private and corporate) instead of demanding raizing and rebuilding projects on land where there already are company buildings where companies have closed down. We really need, IMHO to love the environment AND to love our country and deal with corruption EVERYWHERE THAT IT EXISTS. No freebies for individuals, no freebies for companies--nothing is free, because WE all have to pay for it.
I am confident that if the land in the original proposal were reclaimed for the Everglades, despite the disease mentioned in the article (pg 1, "...canker, a plant disease..."), I believe that it could recover very well, just like the Illinois acreage did.
1) 1980, Mount St. Helens explodes.
The experts through it would take a minimum of one generation, 25 years for the land to come back. They discovered the streams, trees and fish had begun to recover after about 5 years, and now continues to recover
2) 1989, Black Hills, SD wildfires
We visited one month after fires very much like the 2009 California fires, destroyed great swaths of the Black Hills. (We didn't cancel our reservations to the French Creek Horse Camp, even though it looked like a ghost camp in August, 1989, when usually you can't get one spot unless your reserve 5 months ahead.)
3 years later, we visited again and saw great new growth. The Forest Service now gathers and stacks any compustable vegetation--tree and otherwise--in tepee-like piles, which they burn in mid-winter when there is plenty of snow to contain them. Now, you wouldn't even know there was a fire, by looking.
3) 2000, article regarding 5,000 acres of reclaimed swampland in the center of Illinois
Amazingly, acreage which had been in production for nearly 100 years, and was reclaimed in 1995, was sprouting vegetation from seeds that had remained dormant in the soil for decades. Also, native fish and native birds have returned to the new/old swampland--Illinois is actually a big, damp, swamp that the farmers have tiled so we can have some dry land
.In MHO, it is government allowing sprawl (private and corporate) instead of demanding raizing and rebuilding projects on land where there already are company buildings where companies have closed down. We really need, IMHO to love the environment AND to love our country and deal with corruption EVERYWHERE THAT IT EXISTS. No freebies for individuals, no freebies for companies--nothing is free, because WE all have to pay for it.
I am confident that if the land in the original proposal were reclaimed for the Everglades, despite the disease mentioned in the article (pg 1, "...canker, a plant disease..."), I believe that it could recover very well, just like the Illinois acreage did.
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I suggest that if you really want some insight to whatis being planned for environmental issues in the United States that you look to the United Nations and Agenda 21. Do a search on agenda 21 and you will find the full document. Also do a you tube search. It is an eye opener. Seems they have a plan the land of my new little homestead, and that of my neighbors and probably yours too.
