Weight loss & exercise

Dace

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This has been stated here a few times, but I thought some details might be of interest to those looking for weight loss.

Kramer, Volek et al.

Influence of exercise training on physiological and performance changes with weight loss in men.

Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 31, No. 9, pp. 1320-1329, 1999.

Overweight subjects were assigned to three groups: diet-only, diet plus aerobics, diet plus aerobics plus weights. The diet group lost 14.6 pounds of fat in 12 weeks. The aerobic group lost only one more pound (15.6 pounds) than the diet group (training was three times a week starting at 30 minutes and progressing to 50 minutes over the 12 weeks).

The weight training group lost 21.1 pounds of fat (44% and 35% more than diet and aerobic only groups respectively). Basically, the addition of aerobic training didnt result in any real world significant fat loss over dieting alone.

Thirty-six sessions of up to 50 minutes is a lot of work for one additional pound of fat loss. However, the addition of resistance training greatly accelerated fat loss results.


and...

Bryner RW, Ullrich IH, Sauers J, Donley D, Hornsby G, Kolar M, Yeater R.

Effects of resistance vs. aerobic training combined with an 800 calorie liquid diet on lean body mass and resting metabolic rate.
J Am Coll Nutr. 1999 Apr;18(2):115-21.

The aerobic group performed four hours of aerobics per week. The resistance training group performed 2-4 sets of 8-15 reps, 10 exercises, three times per week.

V02 max increased equally in both groups. Both groups lost weight. The resistance training group lost significantly more fat and didnt lose any LBM, even at only 800 calories per day. (The reason the calories were so low was to really take any dietary variables completely out of the equation and compare the effects of the exercise regime on LBM and metabolism.)

The resistance training group actually increased metabolism compared to the aerobic group, which decreased metabolism. It seems that resistance training is a more significant stress to the body than a starvation diet.

and the last....

Schuenke MD, Mikat RP, McBride JM.

Effect of an acute period of resistance exercise on excess post-exercise oxygen consumption: implications for body mass management.
Eur J Appl Physiol. 2002 Mar;86(5):411-7. Epub 2002 Jan 29.

This study used a circuit training protocol of 12 sets in 31 minutes. EPOC was elevated significantly for 38 hours post-workout.

Thirty-eight hours is a pretty significant timeframe for metabolism to be elevated. If you trained at 9AM until 10AM on Monday morning, youre still burning more calories (without training) at midnight on Tuesday.

Can we compound this with additional training within that 38 hours? No research has been done, but I have enough case studies to believe that you can.
 

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I can personally testify to the uselessness of aerobics for weight loss. Now I did have fun, it helped with my stamina, but 6 days a week 1 hour per day resulted in ZERO weight loss over a period of 2 YEARS.

I do need to start doing some weight lifting. I guess hauling 50# bags of duck food isn't enough since I only use 1 per month :p
 

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But don't forget that aerobic training is needed for other areas of health!

Eeek, 800 calories a day!!!!
 

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Absolutely, it is needed for general health! I feel great after my swims.....can't get that from any pill.

I am just pointing out that what we have been brought up to believe is the key to losing weight has been proven NOT to be.

Diet and weight training are the winning combo for weight loss :)

Rather than force yourself to run, go to aerobics, spend hours on a treadmill....find an exercise that you will enjoy on a regular basis and do it for the pure pleasure of getting your heart pumping!
 

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Dace said:
Rather than force yourself to run, go to aerobics, spend hours on a treadmill....find an exercise that you will enjoy on a regular basis and do it for the pure pleasure of getting your heart pumping!
I totally agree! :gig My aerobic workout plan is sex. (Can I say that here? We are all adults, right?)

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There is also a difference between moderate exercise done for a prolonged period of time and high intensity aerobic exercise done for 30 min or so. You will get a lot more fat burning from low-mod exercise that lasts for over an hour, because the body doesn't really start burning fat calories until it has been working out for over half an hour. Hiking is great for this. Backpacking (weight bearing) is even better. ;)
 

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I did both. No weight loss. Seriously.

I am not saying don't exercise, but aerobics for weight loss is really a waste of time. Aerobics for fun, for stamina, for an excuse to get out in the sun....heck yeah. But it isn't going to make your skinnier.
 

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Well, I'm sorry to hear that Wifezilla.

I had an entirely different experience.

I don't diet. Period.

When I had some extra baggage to lose, I found that walking for about 2 hours, 3 times a week eventually thinned me down quite a bit. I also would occasionally bike for about 18 miles (took me about 1 1/2 hrs) in lieu of walking. I think it took a full year to really appreciably see the results, but it seriously worked well for me. I was sad when my life changed and I no longer had time to exercise that much. :/ But between digging garden beds with pick axes and hauling feed bags, etc. around our place, I seem to be keeping the weight off.
 

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