You don't have to juice the apples to make cider though the finer you crush them the faster they will Ferment. We usually pare them to remove the stems and seeds [gives a veggie bitter taste] and the rot spots spots [can cause mold] rough chopped takes about twice as long to ferment as pressed. Sooner or later you will probably want to press them but the chunks do make decent feed for chickens or pigs [not too much or they can get drunk] and once you have cider it is easy to get to vinegar.~gd