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Gold Harvest is made by either Ball or Kerr. I don't remember which company it is.
Where are all the lids???
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Bambi, I've not yet tried my Tattlers, but I'm sure someone here has. IIRC, the rings must be tightened after they come out of the canner???? Don't quote me here, I haven't read the "how to" in quite some time. Once people get the hang of the fact that they must be handled a bit differently, they seem to like them. Most of the bad reviews seem to be coming from folks who don't understand that they require a bit of a different technique. Based on the fact that I re-use my regular lids, I can't justify spending the cash on Tattlers. But, who knows, once I try them, and as we move forward in these last days, I may wish I'd converted completely to Tattlers.
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Golden Harvest is from the company that owns Ball and Kerr (and Bernardin). So they are made here. I have some but haven't actually seen them in stores in years.
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You reuse your canning lids? I didn't even know that was possible. I have been using Tattler's for three years. It seems they have a *slightly* higher likelihood of failure to seal, but where I've had seals fail after a few weeks or months with regular canning lids, I've never had a Tattler lose it's seal after it's already sealed. They have a slightly higher upfront cost, but I just buy a pack or two every year. I usually do each canning batch with half Tattler and half regular lids.
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I get them at DG.
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Re-using canning lids is one of those things. "THEY say" a lot of things that may, or may not be true. If I have a lid that is not marred or stained, I will re-use it. I have many lids that have been re-used 4 times. The "painted area" inside the rubber ring must be without stain, the rubber ring must also not be stained, The center of the lid should not be dimpled, and the edge of the lid where the can opener has pried the lid up must not be dented. If the edge has a ding from the can opener, I will roll it on the counter, like a wagon wheel to restore the "factory edge". My lids are treated with care. When I open a jar, I place a bread tab, or some other such thing under the can opener so the center of the lid does not get dimpled. Then, the lid is inspected, and immediately washed with a soft soapy cloth, and stored for next use. Some people turn their jars upside down after canning. I take great effort to keep the product from contacting the inside of the lid! Whether new or used, a sealed jar is a sealed jar! I also use jars from the grocer for HWB canning, if the lids are in good shape, and the jar is appropriately sized.
Don't ever ask the "canning police" if you can re-use your lids, or if you can use a jar from the grocer. They will tell you that if you attempt such a dangerous thing, you will surely die.
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Well, I mean if you can re-use Tattler lids, and mine Tattler lids do stain from tomatoes, I imagine regular lids would be just as safe. Do you notice higher incidences of failure to seal?
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Not really.
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I won’t use the Walmart lids, they crinkled during pressure canning. Total crap as far as I’m concerned.
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I haven't had any problems with the GH jars.
Except for some 1/2 gal Ball, I haven't bought many new jars in a long time. I use the large ones for milking into. Have a few brand new Ball I've picked up at yard sales, etc....you know how intentions go. Not used.
Years back I canned a LOT. Then, kids gone, not so much -- occasional and a lot of jellies, pickles, etc. Now, I find a desire to do more of it and have acquired more jars from 2nd hand sources, dug out my packed ups and have a couple hundred. I'm sure I'll buy more when found at the right price. For just me to use the food, that's pretty much enough -- esp with a freezer. When your garden is doing well, & jars are already bought, then it's economical for a good food supply. I buy Ball lids generally, habit and confidence. In past 2 years I have begun canning meats, which I never had before. It has gone well. Just a self-reliant consideration for me, as there is a lot of work involved. However, I'm at an age when I truly want to retire and cut expenses to be able to feel comfortable with not working. More time than money -- ya know?
Tattler -- they are available here at Ace Hdwe and I looked at them superficially last week. (They also had WM Ball lid & lid/rings, no reg., in stock.) Appears you buy the "lid" and a rubber ring -- all reuseable several times -- right? Yes, what I read was to tighten the rings when coming from canner -- totally opposite of what they say with the Ball type. I can see where it would be money saving in the long run, stored well, re-use as you do jars.
As to turning jars upside down -- this was recommended in an OLD All American Canner owner manual for those glass jars using the 2 piece rubber ring/lid "to test" the seal. Of course, this book was very strong on using tin cans for canning. When I say OLD, the book price says $.35....and a canning basket was $1.50. The control valve was 1.00 and it cost me $34. for the vent pipe & jiggler pressure regulator to replace it.
Haven't installed yet - still using original valve. This is what was once called a No 7.... now has a number nine something. It had NEVER been used. Pan sets were still wrapped in orig paper & I bought from a guy on CL, who inherited a shed of "stuff". A 1 hr drive & $25. got me a jewel!! It sells for approx $250 now, all come with jiggler
.... I'm good with this buy!! I believe they may do a more refined polish on inside now, don't know. But outside is shiny and bright. I thought of buying the 2 tier but, when this came up, I was all over it.
