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Big Daddy said:
I've always liked NPR and CPR.
I do, too. I listen to the first and teach the second :)

They actually have more than just politics and when it is politics they often have reps from both sides and don't try to skew it one way or the other. I hate it when they are fund raising though.
My family swears that they are totally biased, but they at least attempt to present both sides. I cannot stand crappy, obnoxious, loud talk-show radio, right or left, so NPR and WPR is a civilized place to learn more.
 

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Wow, Aly! I can't imagine going to school somewhere like that! I know it happens, as I read about it in the news all the time, but it never has happened to me and mine, personally. Thank God! ;)

In our schools, they respected the right that I exercised to not have my children taught about the theory of evolution and allowed my kids to have other class material on those days. A lot of folks do not realize that what teachers say is not always fact, so I did a little research on my own and found out I didn't have to allow this to be taught to my children.

I guess this is the best part of living rural, the teachers aren't as swayed by what is politically correct here.
Personally, I do not have a problem with teaching evolution in schools. It not about religon, it is about teaching sound scientific theories. It is part of a fundamental part of biological sciences. You have to understand evolutionary theory to understand much of science. To not teach it is a politcial move that reduces our children's education.

I am religous, had evolution taught to me in secondary school and took many anthro classes in college. Did not bother me or make me an atheist. Many people are in the biological and social sciences that believe in God and accept evolutionary theory. One does not exclude the other.
 

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Several of my Wiccan friends behave like your friend. They're so used to being "prayed for" and having people try to convert them and having the very president of the United States say that they aren't fit to hold public office or contribute charitably that they tend to hold a grudge against all Christians. I'm not excusing your friend by any means, just putting it in context. I cannot tell you how many people have prayed for me to find the RIGHT path, to know God, to be saved, and have told me that I'm going to hell. They've even started on my kids now though I have not tried to lead my kids down any religious path.
And I don't even know if your ex-friend has had those experiences. Some people are just naturally obstreperous and need to have a little reality whacked upside their heads before they can learn to accept everyone.
My sig on BYC pertains to this. I guess I'll see you there Lor! :lol:
Party!!! I'll bring the little cocktail weinies and you bring the cheese ball!
 

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farmerlor said:
Blackbird said:
farmerlor said:
Several of my Wiccan friends behave like your friend. They're so used to being "prayed for" and having people try to convert them and having the very president of the United States say that they aren't fit to hold public office or contribute charitably that they tend to hold a grudge against all Christians. I'm not excusing your friend by any means, just putting it in context. I cannot tell you how many people have prayed for me to find the RIGHT path, to know God, to be saved, and have told me that I'm going to hell. They've even started on my kids now though I have not tried to lead my kids down any religious path.
And I don't even know if your ex-friend has had those experiences. Some people are just naturally obstreperous and need to have a little reality whacked upside their heads before they can learn to accept everyone.
My sig on BYC pertains to this. I guess I'll see you there Lor! :lol:
Party!!! I'll bring the little cocktail weinies and you bring the cheese ball!
Its on! Who wants to bring the chips..? No one?
 

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DianeB said:
Beekissed said:
Wow, Aly! I can't imagine going to school somewhere like that! I know it happens, as I read about it in the news all the time, but it never has happened to me and mine, personally. Thank God! ;)

In our schools, they respected the right that I exercised to not have my children taught about the theory of evolution and allowed my kids to have other class material on those days. A lot of folks do not realize that what teachers say is not always fact, so I did a little research on my own and found out I didn't have to allow this to be taught to my children.

I guess this is the best part of living rural, the teachers aren't as swayed by what is politically correct here.
Personally, I do not have a problem with teaching evolution in schools. It not about religon, it is about teaching sound scientific theories. It is part of a fundamental part of biological sciences. You have to understand evolutionary theory to understand much of science. To not teach it is a politcial move that reduces our children's education.

I am religous, had evolution taught to me in secondary school and took many anthro classes in college. Did not bother me or make me an atheist. Many people are in the biological and social sciences that believe in God and accept evolutionary theory. One does not exclude the other.
But I exclude the other. ;)

I was taught the evolution theory as well and it was taught back then as it should be now.....as one theory, not as a fact. In truth, no one has ever proven the origins of this world and I don't have a problem with teaching all the theories of how this world may have come into being....if they teach ALL of them equally.

They do not do this. Therefore, I reject their method of teaching and reserve the right to not have my children spoon fed theory as fact.

Each to his/her own, huh? ;) My children are well versed in all the conjectures of the origins of our being and they are also aware of what I believe. They are more than welcome to draw their own conclusions from the materials offered....as long as they are given a choice of information from which to choose.
 

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Beekissed said:
I was taught the evolution theory as well and it was taught back then as it should be now.....as one theory, not as a fact. In truth, no one has ever proven the origins of this world and I don't have a problem with teaching all the theories of how this world may have come into being....if they teach ALL of them equally.
I understand where you are coming from, but it is not the school's job to teach all things equally. Public education is science and proof based. Maybe all theories would be equally presented in a class about philosophy or religion, but not in a science class.

There are things that my children may be taught in school that I don't agree with. I figure the supper table is a great place and time to talk about what I and my husband believe and discuss what is being taught at school.

As for creationism versus evolution, I figure I don't know how the biblical 7 days were counted, that they could have been much differently timed than today's 7 days, and that evolution definitely continues to happen today, no matter how/whether it happened back then. To me, it's just not one of life's pressing issues. Or religion's pressing issues.

I don't see science and faith as mutually exclusive, either. In fact, the more I see of nature and science, the more faith I have in a greater being than myself (I call that being God, others call that being other names).
 

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Such as Intelligent Design school of thought?
 

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me&thegals said:
Beekissed said:
I was taught the evolution theory as well and it was taught back then as it should be now.....as one theory, not as a fact. In truth, no one has ever proven the origins of this world and I don't have a problem with teaching all the theories of how this world may have come into being....if they teach ALL of them equally.
I understand where you are coming from, but it is not the school's job to teach all things equally. Public education is science and proof based. Maybe all theories would be equally presented in a class about philosophy or religious, but not in a science class.

There are things that my children may be taught in school that I don't agree with. I figure the supper table is a great place and time to talk about what I and my husband believe and discuss what is being taught at school.

As for creationism versus evolution, I figure I don't know how the biblical 7 days were counted, that they could have been much differently timed than today's 7 days, and that evolution definitely continues to happen today, no matter how/whether it happened back then. To me, it's just not one of life's pressing issues. Or religion's pressing issues.

I don't see science and faith as mutually exclusive, either. In fact, the more I see of nature and science, the more faith I have in a greater being than myself (I call that being God, others call that being other names).
I agree with the above bold statement...this is why I don't allow the schools to teach evolution to my children. The evolution information they teach in schools, IMO, is not based on any proof.

I do not see faith and science as mutually exclusive, either. Nor do I see the teaching of evolution as a pressing matter in life or that it is vital to my children's education.

But then, we've gotten way off topic, haven't we? Evolution has nothing to do with the question posed by the OP. Not that I mind going off topic, the road less traveled is my fave pathway! :D
 

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Beekissed said:
But then, we've gotten way off topic, haven't we?
Not really, as religious views in our nation dictate somewhat what is/isn't taught in public schools.
 
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