Coronavirus Concern Up

[Beekissed]

I thought this was interesting...

After First Responders Don't Comply, New York Rescinds Disturbing 'Do Not Resuscitate' Order

It is indeed a slippery slope when bureaucrats, rather than medical personnel in the field, make blanket decisions about who should not be saved.

www.westernjournal.com

to our First Responders!

Hallelujah there are still people out there with a soul in their bodies! I thank God for it.

 

[CrealCritter]

Hallelujah there are still people out there with a soul in their bodies! I thank God for it.

I think there are plenty around who have not committed the unforgivable sin.

 

[Sassafras II]

The whole idea was to flatten the curve. We have done that. We will start the economy back up, and I suppose cases will start climbing again. I guess we’ll see. But we can’t let people’s whole lives crash and fall apart around them.

We Didn't ‘Flatten The Curve,’ We Flattened The U.S. Health Care System

Across the country, hospitals shut down 'non-essential' procedures in preparation for a surge of coronavirus patients that never appeared.

thefederalist.com

 

[farmerjan]

The article cited in the Federalist is so true. One of the dairy farms I test, his wife works in the critical care area of the hospital. They have a 36 bed "section". This is not what was designated for the virus patients expected..... that is separate and has had maybe 2 patients she said? Anyway, they have had a max of 12 on her floor of normally 30 at a time. They have furloughed nurses, the rest of the hospital is empty and most all of them have been laid off.....

We needed caution, we needed to take it seriously, and some areas did need to be more prepared.... but instead we got all this mass HYSTERIA that has crippled our country and our economy. Here in Va we have a statewide "lockdown" until JUNE 10th!!!!! That's still 6 weeks away....

The next problem to come along, people will remember the boy crying WOLF, and we might be in a bad place if it is a real disaster and people don't pay attention.

 

[baymule]

I think there will be a second wave, worse than the first exactly because of this;

The next problem to come along, people will remember the boy crying WOLF, and we might be in a bad place if it is a real disaster and people don't pay attention.

So if you have shortages now, I think the second wave will have even more shortages. I hope I am wrong about this.

 

[BarredBuff]

Folks, I believe that we are about to enter a lull. A sense of cautious normalcy will emerge, but I think the worst is ahead of us. I think now is the time to prepare more, grow more, and learn more. That's not just for you hoard away and be selfish with either. That is in the hopes that you can bless someone else by your efforts. The future for the next few years will be interesting.

 

[Mini Horses]

Most of us on SS live with the prep ahead lifestyle of the old time farmers -- who had few stores, only self produced. I mean, that's truly SS. Right?

Processing is down -- things growing can't always be stopped mid-stream, especially animals -- so there will be heartbreaking (& wallet breaking!) loss.

I'm in VA and my personal situation has not changed except that the others around have changed. I'm working. Then, I rarely went to a restaurant, or a fast-food, or leisurely shopping....don't miss or realize most are closed. My BFF is a hairdresser...I go to her house.

Most of us are outside in the sunshine every day we can be.

 

[tortoise]

we are about to enter a lull. A sense of cautious normalcy will emerge, but I think the worst is ahead of us. I think now is the time to pre

yes. I agree! in WI, people are pushing hard to reopen the state and saying everything is an overreaction. We haven't peaked yet. Still exponential increase in new cases.

Panic is not sustainable, so then we get people giving up or reaching a breaking point and not complying and then wave 2.

I'm not panicking. I'm just concerned. And staying home. All is good here. DH's business and employees are all doing fine. We are just busy with farm work. I sent DS13 to grandma's house where he is self-quarantining with 3 other cousins and an aunt, so I don't even have the stress of dealing with him. I already cut my own and my family's hair. I wear a mask when I go grocery shopping and I work in my garden. I still have plenty of TP, haven't even opened the extra pack I got in February before people panic-shopped. I won't be affected by meat shortage or high prices - we've been self-sufficient for meat for several years. I'm expecting food shortages due to import changes and planning for it now with my garden.

I'm also taking vitamin D supplements (I have bad DNA for vitamin D and require high dose supplements to maintain normal levels). I increased vitamin C dose, increased quercetin dose, added zinc since my diet is deficient in zinc. I added LDN since I had some left from a prior rx. I already was taking selenium. I'm getting sunlight to activate the supplemental vitamin D. I increased my exercise and outdoor time. I'm being diligent with sleep. I'm adding longer fasting periods, since fasting is another way to bolster the immune system. I'm doing everything in my ability to keep my body healthy and my immune system robust. At some point we're going to be exposed. Maybe not this year. Maybe in 5 years. I certainly am not going to put an experimental vaccine in my body. Especially not one that has been rushed to market under political pressure! No way! I'll just keep wearing a mask in public, homeschool my kids, etc.

 

[tortoise]

I might have my animals processed for direct sales rather than selling at auction this year. I have mostly ewe lambs this year, so maybe I'll buy more hay and hold back some animals? IDK. Definitely things to be thinking about.

 

[Britesea]

One problem with maintaining a good immune response while isolated: your system NEEDS to be exposed to stuff regularly or it starts to regress. That's part of the problem with people becoming so germaphobic - we have become LESS resistant to diseases and pathogens. If you are a healthy person with no underlying immune-compromising conditions, you are doing yourself a disservice by trying to protect yourself from a disease that, as data is starting to show, not that dangerous (to quote one such study: "large number of infections; small number of deaths") Travel bans and quarantines were a good idea in the beginning, because no one knew (thanks to one country's lack of transparency) just how serious this brand new disease was going to be. No one knew at first how it was transmitted, where it came from, or anything else about it. We do know NOW that it started a lot earlier than anyone realized- as early as November in China. There were something like 3 flights a day coming from Wuhan to America daily until the travel ban was ordered. The Kung Flu was already here and spreading rapidly, but people probably just figured they had the flu and didn't even bother to go to the doctor since we already know how to deal with the flu. Some never even knew they had it. These people are already immune and don't know it; they are living in fear of getting this dreaded disease needlessly.

Before you all start jumping down my throat: Yes, I am fully aware that a lot of people have died. But the data is showing that the percentages are not any higher than the flu. The numbers in places like NYC are higher in part because people were being sent to nursing homes from the hospitals instead of places like the Navy hospital ship (which spent 3 weeks in NYC and finally left after being given only one patient to care for: a motorcycle accident). Nursing homes are, by their very nature, full of people with compromised immune systems, so of course they died like flies.
eta: I found out that the hospital ship had more patients to care for- but it was still only 179 patients; nowhere near their capacity
Most people don't worry about getting the flu, in fact about 50% of the population doesn't bother with getting a flu shot and a lot of the ones that do get one are only doing so because they are required to get one by their place of employment (my DH was one before he retired)

Take a look at what's happening in Sweden. They are approximately the same size as Michigan, same population. Michigan instituted a truly draconian lockdown, Sweden didn't do anything but advise people to practice social distancing (and it allowed citizens to decide what that meant) and suggested that the elderly take extra precautions. The result? Both have had very similar numbers of hospitalizations and deaths, but antibody testing is showing that Sweden is approaching "herd immunity", which means that even if the disease mutates, they won't have the spikes of infection and death. Michigan does not have herd immunity because they haven't been exposed.

This disease isn't going anywhere. You can't hide in your houses and hope it just goes away. A vaccine is probably years away, and if people try to wait until then to open society, there probably won't be a need for it because everyone will have died from starvation, other diseases or life-threatening conditions, suicide, domestic violence and abuse- all very real dangers of extended isolation.