Deflation followed by hyperinflation?
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SKR8PN makes a good point. "The Forgotten Man" is a fascinating book. I thought I had a pretty good idea what happened during The Great Depression. I had no idea. Bartering became the only way to live in many areas around the country (almost all of Utah, for example). Many areas and industries created their own "scrip". Americans adapted, did what they had to do, and pretty much forgot about the gov't (now THERE'S a thought).SKR8PN said:
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It's nice to have found a place where people share similar views. I've been extremely frustrated lately, even with my closest friends - most of whom are devout Christians. Despite the flashing red lights surrounding them, the job losses, foreclosures, deflation, the "stimulus" package, the No Bank Left Behind Act, our march into socialism ... they just keep on spending and splurging, God bless 'em.
They have no savings, no safety net and no food stored. And they have no plans to do so. They aren't even planning on having a plan. They do, however, have mountains of debt. They feel as though the Lord is going to save them. Surely He won't let them go hungry, they think.
I keep telling them that God warned Noah and told him to prepare. He warned Lot and Joseph when destruction was near. He warned Jeremiah and Ezekiel .... for crying out loud, He even warned Mary and Joseph about impending doom and allowed Jesus to become a refugee!
But nowadays far too many American Christians think they will be exempt from hard times.
So my family prepares, and our friends know we are prepared. They know the freezer is stocked full and the garden will be planted. They know we'll have gas and meds, water, extra blankets, clothes, etc. Obviously, as a minister I must share with those who will be in need. But I have told our friends, each of whom have the financial means to start preparing now, that I will be more inclined to help those who were financially unable to prepare themselves. I've told them that they need to take care of their family, start preparing, store extra goods to help others, and that I hope and pray I won't have to turn them away.
They still aren't preparing.
They have no savings, no safety net and no food stored. And they have no plans to do so. They aren't even planning on having a plan. They do, however, have mountains of debt. They feel as though the Lord is going to save them. Surely He won't let them go hungry, they think.
I keep telling them that God warned Noah and told him to prepare. He warned Lot and Joseph when destruction was near. He warned Jeremiah and Ezekiel .... for crying out loud, He even warned Mary and Joseph about impending doom and allowed Jesus to become a refugee!
But nowadays far too many American Christians think they will be exempt from hard times.
So my family prepares, and our friends know we are prepared. They know the freezer is stocked full and the garden will be planted. They know we'll have gas and meds, water, extra blankets, clothes, etc. Obviously, as a minister I must share with those who will be in need. But I have told our friends, each of whom have the financial means to start preparing now, that I will be more inclined to help those who were financially unable to prepare themselves. I've told them that they need to take care of their family, start preparing, store extra goods to help others, and that I hope and pray I won't have to turn them away.
They still aren't preparing.
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I think it's a great idea to e prepared. If we go into a depression, what happens if you still have a mortgage? I'm pretty sure the bank will kick you out. So what do people do that have a mortgage?
unclejoe
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Allow me to add : ANYTHING that has a long shelf life would be a smart investment now. One example - salt. Salt has hundreds of uses. It is essential to our well being and it's CHEAP. For the last few weeks I have picked up a box of salt every time I stop at the store. The 45 cents for a 28 oz box isn't even noticed at the register. Sugar, spices (the ones you don't grow yourself), and grains ( rice, oats, wheat) store well and are fairly cheap right now. They are also great items to barter with if need be. Toothpaste, soap(if you don't make your own), deodorant, and TP are all things we take for granted that would be sorely missed if we could no longer afford to buy them. So if it stores well and you have the space to store it, get it ASAP. I agree with CJ. By harvest season it is going to be ugly.CJHames said:
Homesteadmom
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All those are up in & on top the White Mtns. It is really pretty up there & I have been told by a few different people at the local farmers market that anything except citrus will grow up there(to cold). My mom was up there a yr ago for the first time(finally) & it reminded her of SE OK she said. The name of the town is St. Johns & the population is about 3500, no stop lights at all in the town. The local movie theatre marquee during football season for movie times says "Fri, after the game". There is a IGA store, a pharmacy, a hardware store, a NAPA & Car Quest stores, a Dollar General & Family Dollar stores, Radio shack is inside the IGA store, 2 hotels, 1 liquor store, 1 bar, & about 5 restaraunts. There are a few little boutique stores too. There is another 2 towns about 30 mins away(Springerville/Eager) that has more grocery stores, hardware stores & just about everything else. Then 45 mins away(opposite direction is Show Low & there is a Home Depot & Walmart there. No fast food in St. Johns & all the restaraunts are closed on Sat., as everyone goes to the other towns for their shopping usually. There are 2 Mormon churches, 1 Catholic Church, 1 Baptist & 1 Pentecostal church in St. Johns, 3 cemetaries, 1 Catholic, 1 Mormon & 1 Protestant. It is a heavily Mormon populated area & I found out this last summer that there is a polygamist compound nearby in another town(Concho). There is a guy in Concho who sells organic raw honey too. One guy told me apples grow great up there & there are no apple orchards up there. Those ranches are raw land no utilities or anything. There are a few that the roads are impassable when the rainy season(monsoon) hits sometimes. You would have to put a well in on some too. There is one that has a shared well, but not sure which one it is. But it is a very friendly little community, the majority of the population up there works for the gov't in some way shape or form. Our property is remote & there is no elec back there so we are planning solar & wind, we do have a well already too. Oh yes the winds can be pretty high up there & building codes are for winds up to 120 mph. There is a breeze or wind of some kind almost all the time(at least where we are). Just about every store carries canning supplies too, along with hunting & fishing supplies. There is a lake nearby too, it is called Lyman lake & a nice place. Any more questions feel free to ask, I will answer if I can.CJHames said:
Homesteadmom
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If you have a job you keep making your payment.Big Daddy said:
Wow, what a great report, thank you! Now if you could tell me what the annual property taxes are ... just kidding, you did enough. Sounds like a great place. I like the availability of solar and wind. But I am struggling with what will be more important in the future: needing wood and water (which means we go to east Texas, MO, Arkansas or KY) or the ability to grow food year-round, which we could probably do in any of the above places with a good, strong greenhouse).Homesteadmom said:
ASSOCIATIONS
Our church doesn't have traditional Sunday morning Bible study's, we have "life teams." We meet on Sunday evenings in a home. As economic conditions have spiraled down, it has occurred to me that God has given us a very useful group: we have a butcher who owns a meat market, a terrific carpenter, a gardner/landscape guy who also has some carpenter exp, a mechanic and a seasoned hunter/fisherman. We also have an accountant. I can't figure out yet what he's good for, but I digress. Our women include craft makers, wonderful cooks, hearty workers and great loving, nurturing women. We are truly blessed.
If you can band together with people you trust - and even better love - that have various important skill sets it will be of great benefit to you.
Our church doesn't have traditional Sunday morning Bible study's, we have "life teams." We meet on Sunday evenings in a home. As economic conditions have spiraled down, it has occurred to me that God has given us a very useful group: we have a butcher who owns a meat market, a terrific carpenter, a gardner/landscape guy who also has some carpenter exp, a mechanic and a seasoned hunter/fisherman. We also have an accountant. I can't figure out yet what he's good for, but I digress. Our women include craft makers, wonderful cooks, hearty workers and great loving, nurturing women. We are truly blessed.
If you can band together with people you trust - and even better love - that have various important skill sets it will be of great benefit to you.
