We planted 3 fruit trees and many grape and barry bushes, I have a years worth of seeds and will be saving some from this years crops. I do plan on getting a pressure canner so that I don`t have to freeze everything that can`t be water processed. I also have meat rabbits and chickens, if SHTF I will stock up on bales of field cutting and pellets as rabbits. It also depends on the outcome of the shortage if it`s a few months we can get by but a year or two we might have to be resourceful.I own a book on safe wild plants in our area, geat idea to own something like that as we won`t starve in the spring,summer or fall which would allow us to stock pile food alot better.IDK can anyone be truely ready in a city already going corrupt, nieghbors willing to steal for thier next hit! I think we might go on a camping trip!
Food Shortage
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k0xxx
Mr. Sunshine
You never know when a food shortage can hit. Here is an article about someone poisoning 7 million seedlings in Australia. From this one act they expect the price of tomatoes to double, as well as affect the prices of several other types of produce.
Australian police probe poisoning of 7M veggie plants; tomato shortage could double prices
Our garden was decimated in one night by deer, due to a fence being left open. If forecast shortages were to actually happen, this could be a life and death situation for my family. Thankfully it's just a regrettable lesson.
"That which you survive is called experience."
Australian police probe poisoning of 7M veggie plants; tomato shortage could double prices
Our garden was decimated in one night by deer, due to a fence being left open. If forecast shortages were to actually happen, this could be a life and death situation for my family. Thankfully it's just a regrettable lesson.
"That which you survive is called experience."
I look at the world as it is today. I see Europe and the European Union on the brink of financial disaster. And we, because of treaties with the IMF, are directly connected to them. Should they collapse, that will bring us down financially right along with them. But you want to know something? No matter what mankind has done or continues to do to our beloved little planet, it's NOTHING compared to what can happen the day mother nature gets up on the wrong side of the bed.
Examples.... Had a Katrina like storm hid New York City, estimated dead, over 100,000. Quite a few of us here I would assume were old enough to remember when Mt. St. Helen's erupted. Fact is in the volacano terms was a minor burp, and still managed to cool the entire planet down by 1 degree for two years. Now think about this, when the caldera under Yellow Stone eventually pops, there goes pretty much all of America's bread basket....for years! This is one of the reasons I was inquiring about a greenhouse in another forum. There might, and I will admit there's only a slim chance of this happening in my life time, chance of a rapid weather change that could prevent any of us from growing outdoors. Everyone knows that eventually California is going to be hit by the "big one". So they've actually prepared for this. But, what about New Madrid fault? That pops again, St. Louis and Memphis will be flattened most assuredly. But of major consequince, there's major fuel (natural gas and oil) lines, rail road and highways that cross the mississippi. If you took that section from St. Louis down about 200 miles and removed every bridge, how much food and resources you think the rest of the bridges can handle?
The Boy Scout motto...."Be Prepared!" You can't prepare for everything. It's impossible to do so and any attempt would just drive one insane. If we start worrying about every little thing that "might" happen, would life really be worth living? I personally don't think so. But we can plan for most things. The rest, well, we'll just have to see.
Examples.... Had a Katrina like storm hid New York City, estimated dead, over 100,000. Quite a few of us here I would assume were old enough to remember when Mt. St. Helen's erupted. Fact is in the volacano terms was a minor burp, and still managed to cool the entire planet down by 1 degree for two years. Now think about this, when the caldera under Yellow Stone eventually pops, there goes pretty much all of America's bread basket....for years! This is one of the reasons I was inquiring about a greenhouse in another forum. There might, and I will admit there's only a slim chance of this happening in my life time, chance of a rapid weather change that could prevent any of us from growing outdoors. Everyone knows that eventually California is going to be hit by the "big one". So they've actually prepared for this. But, what about New Madrid fault? That pops again, St. Louis and Memphis will be flattened most assuredly. But of major consequince, there's major fuel (natural gas and oil) lines, rail road and highways that cross the mississippi. If you took that section from St. Louis down about 200 miles and removed every bridge, how much food and resources you think the rest of the bridges can handle?
The Boy Scout motto...."Be Prepared!" You can't prepare for everything. It's impossible to do so and any attempt would just drive one insane. If we start worrying about every little thing that "might" happen, would life really be worth living? I personally don't think so. But we can plan for most things. The rest, well, we'll just have to see.
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I won't be purchasing a pressure canner because i'm a little intiminated, plus all I'd really want to can that requires that is stock. I may make friends near me and ask them polietly to can my stock in exchange for a can 
I can't say I don't worry about it, but planning for the future, I can say that I will have far less worries!
I can't say I don't worry about it, but planning for the future, I can say that I will have far less worries!
mamaluv321
Lovin' The Homestead
I just have to say, I love all the talk about the "SHTF", my mom always called me paranoid when I said that and it's nice to know I'm not the only wingnut! 
On an serious note tho, I think everyone here is doing leaps and bounds more than, say, a very large portion of our country. Atleast we can admit that there is a problem and that we are actively trying to find solutions.
I also wanna thank everyone here for the sharing of information and the lack of judgement.
On an serious note tho, I think everyone here is doing leaps and bounds more than, say, a very large portion of our country. Atleast we can admit that there is a problem and that we are actively trying to find solutions. I also wanna thank everyone here for the sharing of information and the lack of judgement.
If the SHTF we are all doomed as the government will not tell us about any predicted shortages until it's too late. the government likes to cover up, hec today even the beach we normally go to is normally closed after a rain, yesterday it rained lots ,they still gave a green flag and it just so happens that they are trying to get the beach as a high scoring beach, one way to do that is have less days where the beach is red flagged. cover up is all I can say about that. We are doomed right now as the cost of living is soaring yet pay is staying the same, when the min wage goes up to compensate everything almost doubles. Bread is 2.79 here up from 1.75 last year, canned goods and produce the same.
k0xxx
Mr. Sunshine
Between the number of midwest counties declared agricultural disaster zones, and the number of crop failures overseas, we are probably going to see an even faster rise in food prices.
Corn prices bolt up as USDA downsizes 2010 crop estimates
Drought threatens global rice supply
Va farmers say heat taking toll on crops
Severe food shortage follows lack of rainfall in Syria
Ok, Syria is not exactly a major food producer, but their additional imports add to the strain on global supplies.
Plan for a food-insecure future, academic warns
Eating leaves and lizards to survive in Niger
Now, if the dollar starts sinking, as the Euro is doing, the price curve will get steeper.
Corn prices bolt up as USDA downsizes 2010 crop estimates
Drought threatens global rice supply
Va farmers say heat taking toll on crops
Severe food shortage follows lack of rainfall in Syria
Ok, Syria is not exactly a major food producer, but their additional imports add to the strain on global supplies.
Plan for a food-insecure future, academic warns
Eating leaves and lizards to survive in Niger
Now, if the dollar starts sinking, as the Euro is doing, the price curve will get steeper.
Old Sew'n'Sew
All Strings Considered
I live about one tank of gas from Wash.DC, in fact my area is a popular destination for and many have second homes,from Wash. DC and Baltimore, not to mention Pittsburg, PA. After 9-11 there were many community efforts to set up homeland security groups to learn how to cope with the people that will come here, to the places that they have stayed before and camped and hunted and fished. Each one will think that he is the only one that has thought of this, and will jam the highways trying to get to the wilderness of WV. (Some Sci-Fy disaster movies have already depicted this scenario.)
During WW ll the government had a bunker for the entire congress to go to, built under Greenbrier Hotel in Greenbrier Co. It has since been de- comissioned and is being used for a casino now, I think. Now you can take tours of it.
I do not think that my county (not Greenbrier) could accommodate this kind of situation, as there are only two small grocery stores and not enough to support that much water use or sewerage for any length of time, if DC were seriously attacked again.
In other words it would turn out a bit like Haiti.
I think the best way to avoid this kind of scenario would be to make a move well before something serious happens, or just grow where you are planted and try to be inconspicuous (sp?). There is still plenty of really beautiful out of the way places around here, and in all parts of the country also, I think.
The best plan is to have many friends that you can count on, whether you can become fully self- sufficient or not. I am planning to do best I can for food storage, etc. for right now, I hope everything will be ok and I try not to worry too much.
k0xxx
Mr. Sunshine
Well said. The idea that a lot of "survivalists" have of heading into the remote wilderness and waiting out whatever befalls, in some type of primitive backwoods existence is not realistic. I believe that it will take the resources of friends and family, backing each other up both physically and morally, to make it through should the worst happen.Old Sew'n'Sew said:
We need to diligently work toward our goals, but not to the point where it consumes us. Take time to enjoy life and family, and you will be more at peace and more ably meet the challenges should the Schumer hit the fan.
chipmunk
Lovin' The Homestead
We are trying, with limited success this year, to grow some veggies in our garden. We try to make a double batch of something every weekend and can some of it, hoping to catch food prices before they go up. I'm looking into raising rabbits for meat (although DD is aghast that I would consider killing bunnies...).
I have moved half of the money in what's left of my 401K-- really down to a 200.5K after the last year--out of stocks to cash. Kinda of thinking it would be a good idea to invest the cash in some land, but have hesitated because the gummint would penalize me so much for using it before I retire (which, by the way, I don't think I'll ever have enough resources to do anyway. Gotta work until I drop dead, I think). But, you know, I'm one of those wierdos that think the dollar will collapse, in which case it might be worth it to invest in land while the money is still worth something. I welcome y'alls' perspectives on this.
I hope that we don't have a SHTF situation, but honestly expect it to happen this fall or next year
I have moved half of the money in what's left of my 401K-- really down to a 200.5K after the last year--out of stocks to cash. Kinda of thinking it would be a good idea to invest the cash in some land, but have hesitated because the gummint would penalize me so much for using it before I retire (which, by the way, I don't think I'll ever have enough resources to do anyway. Gotta work until I drop dead, I think). But, you know, I'm one of those wierdos that think the dollar will collapse, in which case it might be worth it to invest in land while the money is still worth something. I welcome y'alls' perspectives on this.
I hope that we don't have a SHTF situation, but honestly expect it to happen this fall or next year
