miss_thenorth
Frugal Homesteader
Ahem.....
So you don't have time to garden or compost or whatever. Evenif you don't enjoy it, if the time you are taking to do that stuff is taking time away from your family---by all means give that time to your family. You don't have to doa ll theose things to be SS. Or maybe reevaluate what SS means to you. Ifyou want to put up for an emergency, no one is going to condemn you for shopping the sales and putting up previoulsy canned goods ( by Delmonte etc) on your shelves. do the SS things that you like to do, find ways that don't take alot of time that you enjoy to save money, increase your skills , just do baby steps with what you are comfortable with.
I must admit I didn't read all the bickering. It gets me down.
Just do what you can, what you enjoy, and excel at your job and at being there for your family.
Please don't let anyone make you feel bad about having a job. Having a job provides for your family. You are sustaining them by working for money to buy what they need. I am assuming you are not spending that money on frivolous things.Got into an interesting discussion the other day over on this thread, when I asked why some people are stocking up on food. I learned something, because for months now I was thinking that "TSHTF" was some sort of event--nuclear war, Y2K computer system disaster, China invading, sudden zombie apocalypse. Turns out it's not, it's the same old stuff on the news every day: the economy, people losing jobs, wacky weather events, life being hard. Life is hard for a lot of people in a lot of different ways right now, and many people here see stocking up on food as a wise way to prepare for the proverbial rainy day, with the knowledge that the rainy day, this time around, might be more like a major storm, and it might last a long time.
I understand this. I have been poor, scrounging change from my car to buy a burrito at a fast food place down the street, driving a car that only partly worked only part of the time, wondering whether I would be able to pay the rent month after month. It's tough. Putting food by then would have been great, but I wasn't anywhere near the self-sufficient mindset I have now.
But I didn't stay poor. Being poor--and more importantly, being powerless--made me mad. At one point two different things happened that really ticked me off: First, I got fired. A boss who had a crush on me got mad when I started dating someone else and fired me for a completely false reason. Second, I was staying at my mom's apartment since I couldn't pay my own rent after I lost my job, and a load of my laundry was stolen out of the community laundry room. I was furious. I hadn't really had anything stolen from me before and I felt so violated, like someone had intruded on my personal life and stolen part of me. These two things made me really mad, and I wanted a solution; some sort of fix to ensure that it would never happen again.
I decided what I needed was an education. To me, an education was power--the power to leave a job I didn't like, the power to have a needed skill so I wouldn't be fired on a whim, the power of an income high enough that I could have my own washer and dryer and not worry about thugs stealing my things from it.
So I went to school. Still working full time, I went to community college then transferred to a university. I stopped working full time when I had DD (still at the university), and I graduated a year later. I wasn't sure what to do next. I had spent my time in school working in the same industry I was fired from, but I didn't like it and didn't want to pursue a lifelong career in it. But more importantly, I wanted a skill that was clear, defined, and marketable, so I could do my best to never again be financially powerless. I went to graduate school for a very specific degree in a specific field, and today I am working in that field.
On the down side, my industry is tough and requires a lot of work. I spend much of my time inside an office, and I have to answer to other people. I have very little freedom. On the up side I am employed, and my career it is what I make of it: if I put in a lot of time and effort, I get paid better and I get better opportunities. But that leaves little time, and self-sufficiency requires time--time to raise chickens, time to tend the garden, time to can food, time to shop for sales, time to turn the compost, time to check all the watering systems. Between the job and the family, I don't have the kind of time I need to do it right. If I take the time to do it right, I am distracted from my job, I don't do my work well, I become expendable, and things get very hard. TSHTF, so to speak. I don't want to open myself up for that if I can help it.
I make decent money, but not enough that I don't have to worry about it. Economic issues have been weighing heavily on my mind lately. We invited my 15-year-old cousin to stay with us for the summer since she doesn't really have a good home situation. She has been a joy, and when her school situation for this coming semester fell through, we invited her to continue staying with us and she happily accepted. Raising a teenager is expensive, and suddenly I have two. Also, DD is starting high school, which makes me realize that college is right around the corner. I have always wanted to give her a college education and not have her incur debt from student loans like I did (starting adulthood with a big debt burden is the pits). It's not going to be easy, but I will do it if I am able, even if it means I have to retire later.
So when I was reading all those posts about people putting food by to save money as times get harder I was thinking, Is that something I should do? Is saving food important for me? And I think the answer is no. Doing such things is not the best way to spend my time. I think the best way to protect my family (barring a total social meltdown) is to spend my spare time working, saving money for the future or that very long rainy day, and not spending time growing food, canning, and stocking a pantry beyond what's needed to be prepared for a short-term disaster. If I can keep my job by being valuable to my company, I can help my family succeed to the best of my ability, even when times are hard.
So for now I will keep my little fruit trees alive, feed the chickens and hope they don't get sick, and leave the few annual veggies in the garden to nature. If I get something out of the garden this year, fine. If I don't, that's fine too. I just have to live with that for now, and re-assess my plan whenever the situation changes.
And if the zombie apocalypse happens tomorrow, well......I'm just going to have to go hungry.
So you don't have time to garden or compost or whatever. Evenif you don't enjoy it, if the time you are taking to do that stuff is taking time away from your family---by all means give that time to your family. You don't have to doa ll theose things to be SS. Or maybe reevaluate what SS means to you. Ifyou want to put up for an emergency, no one is going to condemn you for shopping the sales and putting up previoulsy canned goods ( by Delmonte etc) on your shelves. do the SS things that you like to do, find ways that don't take alot of time that you enjoy to save money, increase your skills , just do baby steps with what you are comfortable with.
I must admit I didn't read all the bickering. It gets me down.
Just do what you can, what you enjoy, and excel at your job and at being there for your family.