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Dang. Everyone has an agenda don't they?Wifezilla said:
More Dirt on Aspertame - worse than you thought!
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Apparently, the NAA agrees with the Quack. :/Wifezilla said:
http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/thimerosal.php
If I needed no other proof that there is a definite link between mercury and autism, the fact that the CDC denies such a thing is possible would be enough for me. Anything the government claims will not harm you and only "crackpot" doctors have the nerve to protest...well, I must examine that claim a little more closely.
Words like "thalidomide" dance in my head....sometimes the ends just does not justify the means. Sure, vaccinations are wonderful for some disease control, but the Quacks would like to see that people are forewarned and can make logical, informed choices about just what kinds of tradeoffs are expected in regards to their children.
Can you believe they would even entertain the thought?
Old Sew'n'Sew
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I recently watched documentary about the aspartame, called:"Sweet Misery: A Poisoned world". You can look it up on Net Flix. Scary! 
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Well Dr Baylock is not the only one who is against aspertame and I certainly know how damaging it was to me at one time giving me panic attacks.Wifezilla said:
And I will say that some people are highly highly highly sensitive to mercury. I have had a number of mercury fillings and they didn't bother me but the one mercury filling in my friends mouth made her dreafully ill. It took many many years to figure it out. Finally when she had it removed she was well.... all this from mercury outgassing from this filling. It finally dawned on her when she realized that she was sometimes allergic to tuna fish... ha! some tuna has mercury so she went and had the filling removed and she was cured.
So if you go and inject mercury into someone like her no telling what could happen. That one insists the mercury does not cause Autism kind of silly to me, just because it does not cause all autism.
Actually Baylocks products are pretty good but too expensive for me.
If someone wants a lot of studies they should look for studies on Vioxx and the ones on cardiac stents and how vitamins are dangerous if you are doing chemo.
Dr Baylock promotes good nutrition and supplements to try to keep people healthy. There is lots of evidence that such assistance can ward off disease.
There have been a number of reports out that some supplements can reverse some of the signs of Alzheimers such as coconut oil, tumeric, or iodine therapy and I personally know of two people who cured their parkinsons with alternative medicine.
All those dam studies put out by pharmaceutical industries promote drugs that are dangerous and can kill you and they kill many thousands every year while never never never addressing the cause of the disease.
I see absolutley nothing wrong with attempting to educate people on alternative methods including supplements. There are a lot more studies out on these supplements than you think. take a look around PubMED http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ for about 8 years like I have.
I frankly know too many people who would be dead right now if they did not take the advice of Naturopathic doctors who guess what! recommend and sell nutritional supplements!
Wifezilla
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I am also familiar with Hal Huggins, the DDS who was a big wig in the mercury filling scare. The man was disbarred and he is a definitely a QUACK. Slimy character. Used to drive up to the print shop I worked at in an expensive Harley, wore lots of flashy expensive jewelry, and would laugh with the shop owner about how much money he made on selling his booklets that scared people in to having him rip out all of their fillings which made him MORE money.
"In recent years, Hal Huggins has also targeted root canal therapy, claiming that it can make people susceptible to arthritis, multiple sclerosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, and other autoimmune diseases. As with amalgam fillings, there is no objective evidence that teeth treated with root canal therapy have any adverse effect on the immune system or any other system or part of the body. Huggins's dental license was revoked in 1996. During the revocation proceedings, the administrative law judge concluded:
Huggins had diagnosed "mercury toxicity" in all patients who consulted him in his office, even some without mercury fillings.
He had also recommended extraction of all teeth that had had root canal therapy.
Huggins's treatments were "a sham, illusory and without scientific basis." [24]"
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html
As for the NAA...can open...worms everywhere...
You have those trying to go after big pharma and their deep pockets, you have the scientology connection (very scary) and you have a bunch of confused parents caught in the middle. If you don't know the history of an organization, you really can't trust their information.
The NAA is on a NON-RECOMMENDED RESOURCE LIST of an anti-quackery ring.
http://www.autism-watch.org/
Apparently it is a tiny organization with few members who are anti-vaccine activists.
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2007/07/national-autism-association.html
Here is an interesting post about them...
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/04/just-how-big-is-the-national-autism-association-anyway/
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/06/the-national-autism-association-youre-not-helping/
If you want real autism info go here
http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/
or ask Abi. Or me.
More autism quackery info
http://skepticalsurfer.blogspot.com/2007/09/cult-of-autism.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/chi-autism-lupron-may21,0,242705.story?page=1
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/01/the_anti-vaccine_movement_strikes_back_a.php
http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html
Autism HAS been caused by government agency...the one that told us to all stay out of the sun.
"In recent years, Hal Huggins has also targeted root canal therapy, claiming that it can make people susceptible to arthritis, multiple sclerosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, and other autoimmune diseases. As with amalgam fillings, there is no objective evidence that teeth treated with root canal therapy have any adverse effect on the immune system or any other system or part of the body. Huggins's dental license was revoked in 1996. During the revocation proceedings, the administrative law judge concluded:
Huggins had diagnosed "mercury toxicity" in all patients who consulted him in his office, even some without mercury fillings.
He had also recommended extraction of all teeth that had had root canal therapy.
Huggins's treatments were "a sham, illusory and without scientific basis." [24]"
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html
As for the NAA...can open...worms everywhere...
You have those trying to go after big pharma and their deep pockets, you have the scientology connection (very scary) and you have a bunch of confused parents caught in the middle. If you don't know the history of an organization, you really can't trust their information.
The NAA is on a NON-RECOMMENDED RESOURCE LIST of an anti-quackery ring.
http://www.autism-watch.org/
Apparently it is a tiny organization with few members who are anti-vaccine activists.
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2007/07/national-autism-association.html
Here is an interesting post about them...
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2010/04/just-how-big-is-the-national-autism-association-anyway/
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2006/06/the-national-autism-association-youre-not-helping/
If you want real autism info go here
http://www.autismsciencefoundation.org/
or ask Abi. Or me.
More autism quackery info
http://skepticalsurfer.blogspot.com/2007/09/cult-of-autism.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/chi-autism-lupron-may21,0,242705.story?page=1
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/01/the_anti-vaccine_movement_strikes_back_a.php
http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html
Autism HAS been caused by government agency...the one that told us to all stay out of the sun.
Occamstazer
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The thing about thiomersal that bugs me:
Just because a compound contains an element that you typically think of as toxic does not automatically make that compound dangerous.
None of us would suggest Chlorine is a delicious health food, after all.
However, you'd be dead dead without any NaCl (table salt!) in your diet.
Not trying to throw strawmen around, just making a point that mercury toxicity and possible dangers of thiomersal are apples and oranges.
Just because a compound contains an element that you typically think of as toxic does not automatically make that compound dangerous.
None of us would suggest Chlorine is a delicious health food, after all.
However, you'd be dead dead without any NaCl (table salt!) in your diet.
Not trying to throw strawmen around, just making a point that mercury toxicity and possible dangers of thiomersal are apples and oranges.
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I dont know this hal Huggins guy.
But more and more dentists are opposed to mercury fillings and they will remove them if they get the chance.
Why anyone would think that it is ok to fill anyone's mouth with such a toxic metal is beyond me. Of course they didnt know for a long time but now they do. As I said, levels of sensitivity vary, It does make some people quite sick.
I don't have any appreciation for quack watch. Barrett or what ever his name is is a fraud in and of himself. He never really practiced medicine. He has spent his whole life trying to tear apart those alternative modalities that I KNOW WORK that he knows nothing about. As far as I am concerned he is a waste of a person for the damage he does.
There is a war going on in the country between conventional and alterntive medicine and Alterntive medicine as there has been for 100 years and alterntive is winning. People are really fed up with being lied to, poisoned and murdered by their physicians and pharmaceutical companies out of their ignorance or false belief system in drugs and a total disbelief in any need to detox the body and feed it right.
As more and more Naturopathic doctors graduate from naturopathic medical school more and more people will get educated.
Root canals are prone to give people trouble over the years. Now there is a dentist who has developed a new system of fillings that can avoid root canals even in very extreme casese. When my mercury fillings came out, and they had to because they were cracked, he did my fillings. The whole was so huge from what they did when I was a kid he said that typically a root canal would be needed at this point because decay had spread.
But with his new filling it was not done. It has been perfect.
He now teaches the method at Dental schools and actually spends most of his time teaching. He said I will never need a root canal and the filling he did should last the rest of my life. He actually layers in barriors that bacteria cannot penetrate even if the tooth should crack. He also used Ozone gas to kill any bacteria in the pulp and dentin before the filling went in.
This details it and can help someone find a dentist in their area that does it. http://www.healthsalon.org/478/biom...dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/
But more and more dentists are opposed to mercury fillings and they will remove them if they get the chance.
Why anyone would think that it is ok to fill anyone's mouth with such a toxic metal is beyond me. Of course they didnt know for a long time but now they do. As I said, levels of sensitivity vary, It does make some people quite sick.
I don't have any appreciation for quack watch. Barrett or what ever his name is is a fraud in and of himself. He never really practiced medicine. He has spent his whole life trying to tear apart those alternative modalities that I KNOW WORK that he knows nothing about. As far as I am concerned he is a waste of a person for the damage he does.
There is a war going on in the country between conventional and alterntive medicine and Alterntive medicine as there has been for 100 years and alterntive is winning. People are really fed up with being lied to, poisoned and murdered by their physicians and pharmaceutical companies out of their ignorance or false belief system in drugs and a total disbelief in any need to detox the body and feed it right.
As more and more Naturopathic doctors graduate from naturopathic medical school more and more people will get educated.
Root canals are prone to give people trouble over the years. Now there is a dentist who has developed a new system of fillings that can avoid root canals even in very extreme casese. When my mercury fillings came out, and they had to because they were cracked, he did my fillings. The whole was so huge from what they did when I was a kid he said that typically a root canal would be needed at this point because decay had spread.
But with his new filling it was not done. It has been perfect.
He now teaches the method at Dental schools and actually spends most of his time teaching. He said I will never need a root canal and the filling he did should last the rest of my life. He actually layers in barriors that bacteria cannot penetrate even if the tooth should crack. He also used Ozone gas to kill any bacteria in the pulp and dentin before the filling went in.
This details it and can help someone find a dentist in their area that does it. http://www.healthsalon.org/478/biom...dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/
Wifezilla
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I agree that there is a LOT wrong with modern science and medicine. I am living proof that the dietary model of mostly whole grains and low fat is a nutritional disaster. I guess we will just have to disagree on what qualifies as good and bad.
Sorry But your History is wrong it was G.D.Searle not Monsanto that pushed Aspartame, Even the "interview" you posted said that, you can't blame everything on Monsanto. Oh yes you spelled "Aspertame" wrong too.Mackay said:
Are you trying to be Self Sufficient in artificial sweeteners? Get some bees for honey, plant Sugar Cane or Beets, go pound things in your Maple trees depending on your climate, Wine and Beer you can make yourself and it can be sweet Oh how sweet....
