frustratedearthmother
Sustainability Master
Smaller yes....not sure about destructive, lol. They learned to pop open the carabiner to the gate - the big gate to the pasture. They got out twice in three days. So, the closest thing I had on hand to double latch the gate with was a giant nylon dog collar. I'm not sure how they did it - but they broke the nylon dog collar. A brand new one. I mean geeze, you can pull a truck outta the mud with one of those nylon straps. No idea how they did that. Now there is a brand new, heavy-duty chain around it and two carabiners.... ugh!