One more creepy thing about Monsanto
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My bad. I was under the impression that they were founded in Canada. Must have been due to the significant legal activity in Canada.
me&thegals
A Major Squash & Pumpkin Lover
Probably all the publicity about the Canadian canola farmer... Perry something or another, I think.
How incredible (again) that so many of us, despite our country of origin, political views, dietary views or other consider Monsanto evil.
I think it is so, so personal because they are trying (IMO) to monopolize the food chain! Well, at least the seeds that start the entire food chain.
How incredible (again) that so many of us, despite our country of origin, political views, dietary views or other consider Monsanto evil.
I think it is so, so personal because they are trying (IMO) to monopolize the food chain! Well, at least the seeds that start the entire food chain.
dacjohns
Our Frustrated Curmudgeon
This thread has so much potential to go into the murky world of conspiricay. In the meantime I would like to make a few points.
I believe IG Farben is no longer in business.
Bayer, as in Bayer Aspirin was part of IG Farben.
AGFA and BASF also were part of IG Farben.
Monsanto partnered with Bayer in the 1950s.
There are US companies involved in the manufacture of nerve agents.
Pesticide plants are easily converted to manufacture of chemical munitions.
Some of this information is from the infallible Wikipedia.
So is the thread going to go the way other threads have gone the past few days?
I believe IG Farben is no longer in business.
Bayer, as in Bayer Aspirin was part of IG Farben.
AGFA and BASF also were part of IG Farben.
Monsanto partnered with Bayer in the 1950s.
There are US companies involved in the manufacture of nerve agents.
Pesticide plants are easily converted to manufacture of chemical munitions.
Some of this information is from the infallible Wikipedia.
So is the thread going to go the way other threads have gone the past few days?
me&thegals
A Major Squash & Pumpkin Lover
I have to admit to not having read the article, but Monsanto history is long and bloody (well, at least chemicalized and polluted). If you have some evidence of goodwill from them, I would love to hear it, truly. I have 2 nice acquaintances who work there and I would appreciate evidence that they are not TOTALLY contributing to destruction.
THEFAN
Lovin' The Homestead
I am a member of my local grange. The steward position is my current seat. We have been talking and gathering info on Monsanto for years. Each year we send out state grange legislation wishes and this year I am looking to get the grange here in maine to try and get Legislation on labeling genetical modified foods. I will be honest this is my project and I am lost with it. So, I am putting this out to you all. I need to help proposing labeling of all genetically modified items on all food.
I have found out though that the State of Maine grange has O.K.ed genetical modified foods though and this troubles me.
I am thinking about trying to get this past but I think there is a lot of politics being played with the higher ups in the state grange aswell.
The Grange is very active in state and fed legistlation but I have my reserves about them now.
What do you all think???
What a up hill battle and I thought serving on my school board was bad
I have found out though that the State of Maine grange has O.K.ed genetical modified foods though and this troubles me.
I am thinking about trying to get this past but I think there is a lot of politics being played with the higher ups in the state grange aswell.
The Grange is very active in state and fed legistlation but I have my reserves about them now.
What do you all think???
What a up hill battle and I thought serving on my school board was bad
me&thegals
A Major Squash & Pumpkin Lover
Defining "grange" would help me know what you're talking about.
As for what you're trying to do, it would be a David and Goliath battle. Not saying you shouldn't go for it, but it would be huge.
Around here, there were enormous fights over dairies posting their milk as RgBh free, as that suggested that rgbh (produced by, guess who?) was not equivalent to rgbh free.
As for what you're trying to do, it would be a David and Goliath battle. Not saying you shouldn't go for it, but it would be huge.
Around here, there were enormous fights over dairies posting their milk as RgBh free, as that suggested that rgbh (produced by, guess who?) was not equivalent to rgbh free.
noobiechickenlady
Almost Self-Reliant
What it comes down to is this:
"If a book be false in it's facts, dispute them. If false in it's reasoning, refute it. But for God's sake, let us freely hear both sides if we so choose." Thomas Jefferson.
Granted, he was talking about a specific book. But it still applies.
We don't have to have legislation to ban GMOs, we don't need legislation speaking about the dangers. We just want to KNOW what we are eating. If we choose to support GMOs at the grocery, that is our choice, if not, we would then have the freedom to not buy those that are so labeled.
It's about letting us make up our own stinking minds. We're adults, can we not still do that?
Of course, like M&TG said, it's a David vs Goliath effort. Farmers & growers have taken on Monsanto & gotten squashed. Their whole farms, gone. Their history. Gone. Because some corportion can't bear the idea of labeling and that folks might just choose to not support them. All praise the almight dollah.
Bad thing is, it's gone on so long now that GMOs are ubiquitous.
"If a book be false in it's facts, dispute them. If false in it's reasoning, refute it. But for God's sake, let us freely hear both sides if we so choose." Thomas Jefferson.
Granted, he was talking about a specific book. But it still applies.
We don't have to have legislation to ban GMOs, we don't need legislation speaking about the dangers. We just want to KNOW what we are eating. If we choose to support GMOs at the grocery, that is our choice, if not, we would then have the freedom to not buy those that are so labeled.
It's about letting us make up our own stinking minds. We're adults, can we not still do that?
Of course, like M&TG said, it's a David vs Goliath effort. Farmers & growers have taken on Monsanto & gotten squashed. Their whole farms, gone. Their history. Gone. Because some corportion can't bear the idea of labeling and that folks might just choose to not support them. All praise the almight dollah.
Bad thing is, it's gone on so long now that GMOs are ubiquitous.
me&thegals
A Major Squash & Pumpkin Lover
Except for certified organic. You cannot plant GMO seeds and be certified. So, I'm nearly certain that the cheapo corn chips I buy are made from GMO corn.noobiechickenlady said:
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big brown horse
Hoof In Mouth
Sorry guys I didn't mean for this to be any type of "political" thread in any shape or form. And thankfully it hasn't taken that turn. And Dac, I know this isn't a very positive thread either. Perhaps I should have waited for Christmas to be over. I don't know. Anyway, I apologize for the poor timing, but not the subject matter.
Every year my family takes time to remember the Holocaust victims, usually around Hanukah, which just ended. It was still fresh on my mind when I learned of Monsanto's ties with IG Farben after the war...After the world learned about what happened to the over 6 million Jews. As I stated in my title, it is very, well creepy...as if Monsanto wasn't bad enough.
(I knew about Bayer already, there has not been one Bayer product in my house since 1990 btw, that I'm aware of anyway.)
Every year my family takes time to remember the Holocaust victims, usually around Hanukah, which just ended. It was still fresh on my mind when I learned of Monsanto's ties with IG Farben after the war...After the world learned about what happened to the over 6 million Jews. As I stated in my title, it is very, well creepy...as if Monsanto wasn't bad enough.
(I knew about Bayer already, there has not been one Bayer product in my house since 1990 btw, that I'm aware of anyway.)
