Organic food is no healthier, study finds

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Organic food is no healthier, study finds

In a study financed by Monsanto... (ok, so I made that part up, maybe) :/

All of those pesky rumors put forth by the manufacturers about pesticides being bad for us, if we breath and consume them, were just their way of "punking" us. Pesticides are really our friends. Sheesh!
 

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Depends, if the study is based on current seed, and said seed to grow the crop. If you have some good heirloom seed from the fortys, and grew todays corn with a strain from the fortys, than you find the nutrition of the fortys seed to be much better.

What the study doesn't tell you is about food production. They have produced hybrid corn so far, that it only contains a few genetic make up qualitys, big businesses made sure of it.

Me and my corn? We're good, I wouldn't eat a corn off the cob today if you gave it to me. Thats why I grow my own corn, at least I know its corn.

Living on the farm, doing a good job today, what is cloned meat all about?

Look at Funk seed, its all about production. Because I am eating the corn, I don't mind slow growth, it like raising broilers for food. I don't mind the time that it takes chickens to grow, but I ain't swapping out good chicken for hybrid broilers.

I don't mind picking bones and boiling the carcass of an animal for stock.

Of coarse your kidding.... :celebrate
 

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They also don't talk about soil depletion. I would bet that the farming practices of the last 6 decades have seriously depleted the soil of microorganisms and minerals.

I would also like to point out that even if nutrition is identical between organic and non (which I don't believe), the benefits of organic to the earth count, too.
 

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Here's a story with the counter-statements by the organic food industry:
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1842083
Here's an excerpt:
Barbara Haumann, the Organic Trade Association, which represents companies in the United States and Canada, said the report fails to look at the wider issues that are likely driving consumers toward organic foods.

"A lot of consumers do not want pesticides used on the land and the London study does not address those issues," Ms. Haumann said. "Nor does it look at the use of anti-biotics, which lead to anti-biotic resistant bacteria and it does not address the issue of genetic engineering.

"What we've said all along is that when a consumer buys an organic product he or she is supporting a system of agriculture that is healthier for the land and farmers producing that food because they're not exposed to pesticides," she added.
 

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Eh, I've read plenty of studies that say organic vegetables are nutrionally better. Of course this study is getting the lamestream press, it's no doubt sponsored by someone backed by big ag, I'll wait until I read the background before I'll get excited about it - and I don't think I'll be getting excited at all. Organics are making huge inroads, and the traditional food industry is starting to lose money, it's time to up the misinformation campaign.
 

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Yeah, I'm guessing that someone in big ag has noticed the organic sector growing 25%/year, a CRAZY growth rate! Maybe they can see it may no longer be the "weirdo fringe groups" in organics and actually headed a bit more toward mainstream.

"Organic" is the only way I have ever grown. And, actually, I believe the food is vitamin/mineral more nutritious. Even if the studies don't show that, though, you can look at the diversity of plants, bugs, birds and other animals in my garden (and soil) versus the conventional field right next to it and just SEE how much healthier the system is.

Might I also add that BIG organic is just slightly better than other big ag. Organic used to be about building up the soil, using local resources (versus hauling in fertilizer from across the country, for example), creating great diversity (versus huge fields of organic carrots, and carrots only), etc., etc. I would personally like to see organic retain its original spirit.
 

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Organic home grown is not the same as organic big farm. This I know for a fact and won't buy organic from commercial sources. won't say more unless you want to know more.
 

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I smell a change in the definition of the term organic coming. I hope it won't be near to impossible to measure up to it. A move like that would diminish the market again.
 

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me&thegals said:
Yeah, I'm guessing that someone in big ag has noticed the organic sector growing 25%/year, a CRAZY growth rate! Maybe they can see it may no longer be the "weirdo fringe groups" in organics and actually headed a bit more toward mainstream.
Education of the public has gone a long ways towards creating the new markets for organic products.

"Organic" is the only way I have ever grown. And, actually, I believe the food is vitamin/mineral more nutritious. Even if the studies don't show that, though, you can look at the diversity of plants, bugs, birds and other animals in my garden (and soil) versus the conventional field right next to it and just SEE how much healthier the system is.
Keeping our food part of the web of life benefits all of us, from microbes right up through people.

Might I also add that BIG organic is just slightly better than other big ag. Organic used to be about building up the soil, using local resources (versus hauling in fertilizer from across the country, for example), creating great diversity (versus huge fields of organic carrots, and carrots only), etc., etc. I would personally like to see organic retain its original spirit.
I would, too, but as usual, where there's money to be made, there are corners to be cut :rolleyes: It's up to us, as consumers, to make sure the organic providers know we're paying attention, and we're not going to buy quasi-organic jumk in lieu of the good, organic products that can be produced.....
 
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