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[Bubblingbrooks]

Matt Stone, along with many others, has proven this. If you eat only real food, and as much as you really need, you cannot gain weight. Even with adrenal fatigue!
Historically, when real food was common, and junk was for special occasions, most people ate 3,000 to 4,000 calories per day.
The more calorie reduction and dieting we undergo, the more the body fights the state of famine.
It holds on to weight, and when the hunger takes over, packs on the weight to an even higher number.
It is called yo yo dieting, but in actuality, it should be called check dieting.

 

[AnnaRaven]

Matt Stone, along with many others, has proven this. If you eat only real food, and as much as you really need, you cannot gain weight. Even with adrenal fatigue!
Historically, when real food was common, and junk was for special occasions, most people ate 3,000 to 4,000 calories per day.

Those people also worked off those calories.

In any case, I think it's a very silly argument.

 

[Calliopia]

One thing I have done is buy a reloadable Visa gift card for grocery shopping.

I put my initial "budget" amount on to the card every month. For us it's $100.00

I put this on the card EVERY month. I really almost never use the whole amount. That card also ONLY gets used for groceries. At the end of this year I had about 370 extra balance and that paid for Christmas. It makes it so that the "saved" money from grocery shopping really does get saved instead of falling into some budget hole somewhere else.

(You can also do this with cash envelopes but I get nervous with cash)

 

[Bubblingbrooks]

Matt Stone, along with many others, has proven this. If you eat only real food, and as much as you really need, you cannot gain weight. Even with adrenal fatigue!
Historically, when real food was common, and junk was for special occasions, most people ate 3,000 to 4,000 calories per day.

Those people also worked off those calories.

In any case, I think it's a very silly argument.

Actually, exercise is very low priority for those testing the waters today

 

[patandchickens]

Oh for heavens' sake. It was not a food-politics statement about carbohydrates. It was a comment on my particular kids' particular food preferences... and although I am sure lwheelr is right and they would *eventually* tire of an "open bar" of imported cheese and nuts, I know these kids and you don't, Wifezilla, and I am pretty darn sure it would be a loooooong time before they tired of it and they'd have gained a fair bit in the meantime.

I am so tired of EVERY darn thing getting dragged back to grandstanding about carbohydrates.


Pat

 

[FarmerChick]

I am so tired of EVERY darn thing getting dragged back to grandstanding about carbohydrates.


Pat

right there with ya on this one Pat

the "grandstanding" on carbs is pathetic on this board for sure!



and calories in and calories out is not in pretend land
simple science can educate anyone on that fact

OMG here we go again

 

[tortoise]

One thing I have done is buy a reloadable Visa gift card for grocery shopping.

I put my initial "budget" amount on to the card every month. For us it's $100.00

I put this on the card EVERY month. I really almost never use the whole amount. That card also ONLY gets used for groceries. At the end of this year I had about 370 extra balance and that paid for Christmas. It makes it so that the "saved" money from grocery shopping really does get saved instead of falling into some budget hole somewhere else.

(You can also do this with cash envelopes but I get nervous with cash)

I like this idea! I think my version will be grab an empty bank account register and record grocery purchases. ONLY grocery. So if I go to WalMart and buy stuff other than food, I'll only count the food on it. That way a) I'll know what we spend on food. Right now I can't figure it out and b) I can set a limit like $100. (I don't think we can do $100. I think I would start at $250 and see what happens.

Thanks for the great idea!

 

[Wifezilla]

Biblically, and historically, bread has been the staple food on which life has thrived. People ate it in fairly large amounts year round.

The bread of biblical time is not the bread you see in the stores today. It is not even the bread you make at home with your own wheat berries. http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/emmer-einkorn-and-agribusiness.html Unless you are sprouting and drying or fermenting your bread ingredients, you aren't even eating the bread of 200 years ago let alone 2000.

I am so tired of EVERY darn thing getting dragged back to grandstanding about carbohydrates.

It doesn't have to do with grandstanding, it has to do with the theory that in the human body "calories in = calories out". It doesn't. It never did. That meme is dragged out all the time and it is allegedly based on thermodynamics. (Which I actually took in college and got a B BTW). But we are a bunch of chemical reactions (hormones) and not a mechanical process, we do NOT use combustion to digest our food (calories), and we are not a closed system. It's like Bugs Bunny saying he can levitate despite the law of gravity because he never studied law.
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/metabolism/thermodynamics-and-weight-loss/

As for exercise as a cure-all, it isn't. The science on that doesn't wash either.
http://nymag.com/news/sports/38001/

I have spent more years of my life that I can to think about trying to unlock why I got fat and why I couldn't lose weight. I finally cracked it and actually read every scrap of research I could get my hands on. I am not quoting women's magazines and day time talk shows. I am talking about the things that are in endocrinology text books that somehow the nutritionists of the world never learn. When you see the actual studies, the research and learn where our current diet "knowledge" came from, how the body actually works you realize how much misinformation is out there. I am not going to stop busting diet myths that kept me (and apparently about 40% of Americans in general) sick and unhealthy for a good deal of my life.

There are very specific mechanisms your body uses to handle the different macronutrients. It should be common knowledge but it isn't.

 

[abifae]

If people disagree with the statements, they should post studies from the other side so we can all read and compare

One thing I have done is buy a reloadable Visa gift card for grocery shopping.

I put my initial "budget" amount on to the card every month. For us it's $100.00

>.> I spend twice that a month. Easily. On food just for me. LOL.

 

[tortoise]

If people disagree with the statements, they should post studies from the other side so we can all read and compare

One thing I have done is buy a reloadable Visa gift card for grocery shopping.

I put my initial "budget" amount on to the card every month. For us it's $100.00

>.> I spend twice that a month. Easily. On food just for me. LOL.

Calliopia - How many people is the $100/mo feeding?