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Actually, we do ferment our bread ingredients. 
Much of the Biblical bread was unleavened flat bread. Often it was nothing more than fairly freshly ground wheat, mixed with a little water and oil, and kneaded, flattened and baked on a rock. No fermentation, no sprouting.
They did sprout and ferment, but not exclusively.
And I would never ever recommend that people eat ANY bread from the grocery store, let alone large amounts. It doesn't qualify as Real Food in my book - even the "organic" stuff invariably has preservatives, and the flour in it is both refined, and aged. The "whole grains" are not whole at all, so all the benefits of good carbs are gone.
Yeah, I'm an elitist on that. I have a wheat mill - I can afford to be a bread snob.
To prove the theory that different combinations of calories affect the body differently, AND that different kinds of carbohydrates affect the body differently, you can try this experiment;
Eat a meal of 1/2 cup apple juice, 2 slices of white bread, 8 oz baked potato with the skin off, 1 cup of milk, 1 TBSP butter, and 4 oz (raw weight) baked chicken. This is supposed to be a meal that is large enough to measurably affect your blood sugar readings - 75 gm is the point at which this happens in a normal person, if you know you react to lower amounts, then by all means, eliminate a slice of bread, or the cup of milk.
Measure your blood sugar at half hour intervals after completing the meal - do this for 3 hours, or until the readings drop to 120 or lower (140 or lower if you know you are diabetic). Record the readings.
Wait 24 hours, and then eat a meal of 1 whole cored apple with the skin, 2 slices of homemade whole wheat bread, 8 oz baked potato with the skin, 1 cup milk, 1 TBSP butter, 4 oz (raw weight) chicken pan grilled in 1 tsp butter, and 2 cups salad greens with 2 TBSP salad dressing. (If you adjusted the foods in the first one, you need to adjust this one in the same way.) This is a larger meal, with more calories, and more grams of carbohydrate. All components are identical for purposes of the "carbs are carbs", or "calories in calories out" theory, but by substituting whole versions we see whether the type matters - by adding a salad, we see whether additional good carbs and calories can actually help.
Measure your blood sugar the same way, and compare the readings with the previous ones.
This kind of test will have other measurable results also - energy levels, presence or absence of heartburn, etc.
I've tested this many times, in varying combinations. When I was pregnant with my last daughter I had to control my gestational diabetes by diet alone after I became allergic to insulin, and I had a lot of time to log meals and blood sugar values, and to analyze the affect of various foods. The results were always that the larger whole food meal gives LOWER blood sugar results.
Now, that does not prove that using whole foods will help with weight loss, but it is highly suggestive that it will, since the blood sugar readings prove that it is affecting the metabolism and sugar use and storage systems differently.
Check it for yourself though, and see what happens on your own body.
Much of the Biblical bread was unleavened flat bread. Often it was nothing more than fairly freshly ground wheat, mixed with a little water and oil, and kneaded, flattened and baked on a rock. No fermentation, no sprouting.
They did sprout and ferment, but not exclusively.
And I would never ever recommend that people eat ANY bread from the grocery store, let alone large amounts. It doesn't qualify as Real Food in my book - even the "organic" stuff invariably has preservatives, and the flour in it is both refined, and aged. The "whole grains" are not whole at all, so all the benefits of good carbs are gone.
Yeah, I'm an elitist on that. I have a wheat mill - I can afford to be a bread snob.
To prove the theory that different combinations of calories affect the body differently, AND that different kinds of carbohydrates affect the body differently, you can try this experiment;
Eat a meal of 1/2 cup apple juice, 2 slices of white bread, 8 oz baked potato with the skin off, 1 cup of milk, 1 TBSP butter, and 4 oz (raw weight) baked chicken. This is supposed to be a meal that is large enough to measurably affect your blood sugar readings - 75 gm is the point at which this happens in a normal person, if you know you react to lower amounts, then by all means, eliminate a slice of bread, or the cup of milk.
Measure your blood sugar at half hour intervals after completing the meal - do this for 3 hours, or until the readings drop to 120 or lower (140 or lower if you know you are diabetic). Record the readings.
Wait 24 hours, and then eat a meal of 1 whole cored apple with the skin, 2 slices of homemade whole wheat bread, 8 oz baked potato with the skin, 1 cup milk, 1 TBSP butter, 4 oz (raw weight) chicken pan grilled in 1 tsp butter, and 2 cups salad greens with 2 TBSP salad dressing. (If you adjusted the foods in the first one, you need to adjust this one in the same way.) This is a larger meal, with more calories, and more grams of carbohydrate. All components are identical for purposes of the "carbs are carbs", or "calories in calories out" theory, but by substituting whole versions we see whether the type matters - by adding a salad, we see whether additional good carbs and calories can actually help.
Measure your blood sugar the same way, and compare the readings with the previous ones.
This kind of test will have other measurable results also - energy levels, presence or absence of heartburn, etc.
I've tested this many times, in varying combinations. When I was pregnant with my last daughter I had to control my gestational diabetes by diet alone after I became allergic to insulin, and I had a lot of time to log meals and blood sugar values, and to analyze the affect of various foods. The results were always that the larger whole food meal gives LOWER blood sugar results.
Now, that does not prove that using whole foods will help with weight loss, but it is highly suggestive that it will, since the blood sugar readings prove that it is affecting the metabolism and sugar use and storage systems differently.
Check it for yourself though, and see what happens on your own body.
