Self Sufficiency Defined

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One thing I know for sure, when you do deeper work, there are only so many massages in your hands and you need to be paid for them! Most people who ask for a discount are doing better than I am! If they can afford to smoke, drink, eat out, travel....not that all those are wrong, just cut back for a while so you can pay me, is all I ask. That is what I do when I want/need something! Why should I cut back so I can give to "you?" Glad I got that worked out early! Besides, I am willing to barter, so there is no reason to give it away.

I do have a couple of people who get a discount, and they are both on a fixed income and do lots and lots for me and other people, giving freely of their time and resources to those even less fortunate. But neither asked for a discount, which got them one!

One of them housesits when we go away, so valuable when you have animals. The other deletes my library fines, which is also valuable!!! And gets me books and cool research info anytime I ask.

I would love to find someone to barter weekly house cleaning and also home improvement projects. Just haven't gotten around to searching. Asked around, but not extensively. Got to get on that!

 

[Beekissed]

I bet you will succeed also! I certainly love the beauty and simplicity of where I live....but the simplicity of minds can be a real drawback!

I think that is the height of SS, if you ask me....to barter the work of your hands for the work of others~well there isn't anything more basic and back to the olden days than that!

 

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UH, I'll loan you my Handy Dandy DH for MT in exchange for us BOTH! (he's sore now so you'll need to tub him down first before he can get the job(s) done.)

Did you mean rub him down or is he really dirty and needs a hosing?

If you fly out this way I can put him to work, for sure!!! Neither of us can handle too many of the home improvement projects backing up around here! We can't afford to get callouses, anyways.....

I tried reading my typo and your reply to DH but omg I was ROTFL waaaaaaaaaay too hard!

I meant Rub him down. LOL He is super sore today.

FLY OUT? We'd drive out. LOL It's only like a 2-3 hour drive to you. Just let this snow melt first HAHAHA

OOOppps! I thought it was Bee I was replying too! LOL We'd still drive out, Free. Neither of us fly.

Oh, I wish! We are in MA. If it were a couple hours drive, we could make it work for sure!

 

[dacjohns]

We had an open house at Church a couple of weeks ago and the topic was emergency preparedness. One of the speakers said that self sufficiency was almost unattainable. Something I have said all along. He said that we should be thinking in terms of self reliance.

Food for thought and maybe even discussion.

 

[Tallman]

We had an open house at Church a couple of weeks ago and the topic was emergency preparedness. One of the speakers said that self sufficiency was almost unattainable. Something I have said all along. He said that we should be thinking in terms of self reliance.

Food for thought and maybe even discussion.

With the phasing out of the horse along with the disappearance of hand tools, I think your right.

 

[farmerlor]

We had an open house at Church a couple of weeks ago and the topic was emergency preparedness. One of the speakers said that self sufficiency was almost unattainable. Something I have said all along. He said that we should be thinking in terms of self reliance.

Food for thought and maybe even discussion.

With the phasing out of the horse along with the disappearance of hand tools, I think your right.

Meh, I have draft and riding horses as well as hand tools. I'm half way there!

 

[dacjohns]

My obstacle to self sufficiency as opposed to self reliance is the ability to produce my own salt, grains, sugar, and things along those lines. Fruits, vegetables, and meats aren't too hard but some of those other things are.

Even the Amish, who are frequently idolized as being self sufficient are not truly self sufficient because the need the outside world for some of their needs. On the other hand, they are remarkably self reliant because of their community ties and networks.

 

[FarmerChick]

My obstacle to self sufficiency as opposed to self reliance is the ability to produce my own salt, grains, sugar, and things along those lines. Fruits, vegetables, and meats aren't too hard but some of those other things are.

Even the Amish, who are frequently idolized as being self sufficient are not truly self sufficient because the need the outside world for some of their needs. On the other hand, they are remarkably self reliant because of their community ties and networks.

I like that Dacs.

Self Reliant!

I am more self reliant than "truly self sufficient"

You are right. Almost no one is truly self sufficient unless we can mine our own salt or produce every single thing we own or barter for man made individual produced goods.

I like the new wording....Self Reliant!

 

[dacjohns]

It is really such a small difference in meanings but I think that self reliance is more accurate. I see it as producing as much as practical, living within your means, and finding ways to economically procure your needs that are not met through home production.

 

[Beekissed]

For the folks on this forum, I would have to agree!

But then, I don't look at self-sufficiency in terms of black and white.

Its all relative to each person's experiences and lifestyle. Whereas self-reliance would certainly be a more apt description, self-sufficiency seems to be the phrase most associated with a self-reliant lifestyle.

Maybe Nifty would change the forum title, ya think?