Sufficient Self's Bible Study Group

[Beekissed]

Any good scripture references for when you are at the end of your rope with a person and want so badly to tie it around their neck and strangle them with it? :/

I know we should be slow to wrath and I am....it has taken me all year to cook up a good head of steam over something that is ongoing and would drive a saint to murder.

I've tried praying for this individual, praying for guidance in how to deal with this person and prayed for peace about having to deal with this person.....finally I am down to praying that I won't strike her so hard her head falls off and I have to repaint my office.

Anybody in the scriptures dealing with anger and justified wrath? What does God say about it? I know there is a verse that says we are to get along with others as much as it is in our power to do so......I think today I just lost the power to do so. I've been biting my tongue so hard all year that I think it's a third shorter than it used to be!

 

[Rebbetzin]

Any good scripture references for when you are at the end of your rope with a person and want so badly to tie it around their neck and strangle them with it? :/

I know we should be slow to wrath and I am....it has taken me all year to cook up a good head of steam over something that is ongoing and would drive a saint to murder.

I've tried praying for this individual, praying for guidance in how to deal with this person and prayed for peace about having to deal with this person.....finally I am down to praying that I won't strike her so hard her head falls off and I have to repaint my office.

Anybody in the scriptures dealing with anger and justified wrath? What does God say about it? I know there is a verse that says we are to get along with others as much as it is in our power to do so......I think today I just lost the power to do so. I've been biting my tongue so hard all year that I think it's a third shorter than it used to be!

Sounds to me, like your resolve to "do what is right" is being tested. Continue to do "what is right to do."

It is much better to avoid strife, than to appear justified.

Is this a "life and death" issue? Or is it just a "disagreement" with someone that gets on your last nerve as it is?

Ask to have the Holy One give you HIS eyes for that person.

Just remember you will not be tested more thatn you can withstand, and with every test, you will be given a way "THROUGH" (not a way OUT)

 

[Beekissed]

Not a life or death situation for me but some of my patients and their families are suffering....some quite needlessly and horribly. The boss refuses to do anything about it but will blame the group if things like this happen....no accountability for the person committing these acts.

I could care less about being right or wrong but I do care about right and wrong. I took an oath for my profession that I take quite seriously and I also take my patient's trust in me and my company quite seriously. A dear lady suffered needlessly this weekend because of this person's beligerence and pride....this I cannot abide though I am trying to keep myself in check.


If it were the first time and due to inexperience or ignorance, I could get past it easily. I can't get past someone deliberately causing a dying person more pain and suffering for their own agenda.

 

[bambi]

Beekiss I hope this helps. " God wove a web of loveliness,
Of flowers and trees and birds,
But made not anything at all
So beautiful as words.
They shine around our simple earth
With golden shadowings,
And ervery common thing they touch
is exquisite with wings."
Anna Hempstead Branch

I hope your day goes better for you

 

[Beekissed]

Thank you, Bambi...that was lovely! I know this will all come clear to me with prayer and patience but right now I feel like a million paper cuts. You all have no idea what kind of bond one forms with dying people and their families....it will take every bit of energy and heart from you and leave you wrecked and on the shore.

If you have any ounce of compassion this is a natural reaction to this time of strife in someone's life in which you are so deeply embroiled. It doesn't mean we have more compassion than most, we are just in the right place at the right time and we have to be a rock. Most days we feel like a pillow....either way it takes it's toll and one expects co-workers to treat your families with the same care and love they deserve and which you have given.

Most days I can do it and then do it again.... I don't mind giving that energy. I do mind giving everything you have and someone taking it back from these people when they need it the most.

 

[Rebbetzin]

Not a life or death situation for me but some of my patients and their families are suffering....some quite needlessly and horribly. The boss refuses to do anything about it but will blame the group if things like this happen....no accountability for the person committing these acts.

I could care less about being right or wrong but I do care about right and wrong. I took an oath for my profession that I take quite seriously and I also take my patient's trust in me and my company quite seriously. A dear lady suffered needlessly this weekend because of this person's beligerence and pride....this I cannot abide though I am trying to keep myself in check.


If it were the first time and due to inexperience or ignorance, I could get past it easily. I can't get past someone deliberately causing a dying person more pain and suffering for their own agenda.

Well,, I guess, my next question would be, are you in the line of responsibility for this person's actions? Is this person "over" you or "under" you in the chain of command?

If this person is "under your authority" then by all means do what you can to make the person aware of their actions and the results.

If they are not under your authority, then you have two choices,

1. Go to the person, alone, and tell them what you are seeing that is causing you and others distress.

2. If after doing #1...and it doesn't work, go to the one "in charge" of that person. Make a formal complaint. But, be aware for such an action, there may be consequences you will have to pay.

Getting upset will not change things for you or anyone else. Only taking "godly" action will help.

 

[Beekissed]

Both of those things were accomplished this day. No, my boss will not take action, judging from past experience and her attitude. No, the co-worker showed no remorse or intention of correcting the action.

And, no, I have no control over her actions....hence the rage and hurt to change what needs to be changed. Formal complaints do not work at our business..they are largely ignored.

Christians are allowed to feel righteous anger. They are allowed to feel hurt over circumstances beyond their control. They are allowed to howl, moan, cry and rant....just read some of Psalms if you don't believe me.

Is it right to mourn, weep and rage? Should we just shut up and have faith? Yes, I'm sure we should. Are we capable of doing that all the time....I know I'm not.

One of my favorite verses is one in Psalms about David soaking his pillow at night with tears of anger and sorrow.

Any other verses to help someone dealing with anger?

 

[Rebbetzin]

I hope you didn't take it that I was saying you shouldn't get angry. Our emotions are not bad things. We just have to know how to use them in a correct manner.

Here is a good article on Anger and What the Bible has to say about it...

http://www.gotquestions.org/anger.html

 

[Beekissed]

Great link, Rebbetzin! From this I gleaned that my wrath is righteous as it is not in defense of me or in my own interests but in the interests of right and Godly behavior~protecting others from harm.

I also learned that it becomes a sin if I hold a grudge, return evil for evil, hold it in and stew, or say hurtful things when speaking to this person about it.

That last part is the hardest part....her actions are so hurtful and deliberate that it will be hard not to say something hurtful to shake her out of this behavior. She professes Christianity but this is not the first indication that her Christian walk is not necessarily on the right path. I won't presume to judge but one has to recognize fruits....hers are questionable all around.

I really don't care about her character as it relates to her life, but merely the results of her actions and how they hurt my patients. If it did not involve the patients I wouldn't give it more than a grumble and a rolling of the eyes.

I will be praying a lot about this because this is a horrible way to feel. I don't like feeling angry and usually avoid it at all costs.

 

[bambi]

Beekissed, I worked with chronic pain pt's for several years. While I was teaching them how to manage pain they in turn taught me so much more. working with someone in pain plus emotions is very hard, bless you for this great work that you do. I know from what I am reading from you, that it does take so much energy to work with the very ill. I don't know what happened at your work to upset you but know that we are praying for you. I know when I decided enough is enough and I let God take over ,it changed everything ,I found great peace, anxiety because I didn't want to let go of the control than peace again.