I personally don't care if people think we are poor. I grew up poor and still am poor. As in below poverty line poor. We made $30,000 last year. There are 5 of us and the only reason we made that much is we leased mineral rights which added an extra 3,000. Yet we own almost everything and have 2 different properties and a backhoe 2 running cars and 2 running pickups. Granted they are old. The pickups are both 80's. But the car is an 06 Mercury. We pay 200 a month for it, plus ins., utilities, groceries, gas and such. We do not get food stamps or recieve any help. Since dh got his new job though, he seems to think that since we don't HAVE to be frugal that he can spend money on whatever takes his fancy. He has spent more money in the last 2 weeks than we used to make in an entire month , and on electronics! Smart phone, mobile broadband and laptop that kind of stuff. And he keep forgetting the important stuff, like bills. Somehow at the end of the month we are just as broke as we were before. I have been trying to figure out how to get him to give me the money to pay tithes, since I think we should be grateful for this new job and the money we are recieving from it. I actually thought about using our grocery money to do it, which is probably what I am going to do. When I say we can't afford it I really mean it, but it doesn't bother me any since it is the truth.