TanksHill
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I am so glad I have two acres in the middle of the city. I should have got two Rottweilers!!
Well we are going to forget our losses.
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I am so glad I have two acres in the middle of the city. I should have got two Rottweilers!!
FarmerChick
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It will absolutely get worse.
It is not over by a long shot.
Who knows truly how it will all balance? No one knows...cause "they" don't know how to truly fix a dying system.
And to change dramatically is not an easy task. Hmm......
Being safe with your money is smart now definitely. CDs and such are a good gamble. I still have stock monies and do play with them cause I can at this point. I lost some already in stock but my 401K has lost nothing, if fact I have capitalized greatly in the last 2 months on my stocks.
But time to be careful is here, no 2 ways about that. Be smart now....save money....fix and maintain what you own now so you don't need to buy new....cut expenses. All smart options. And learn more SS ways. Tougher times are coming for so many folks!
It is not over by a long shot.
Who knows truly how it will all balance? No one knows...cause "they" don't know how to truly fix a dying system.
And to change dramatically is not an easy task. Hmm......
Being safe with your money is smart now definitely. CDs and such are a good gamble. I still have stock monies and do play with them cause I can at this point. I lost some already in stock but my 401K has lost nothing, if fact I have capitalized greatly in the last 2 months on my stocks.
But time to be careful is here, no 2 ways about that. Be smart now....save money....fix and maintain what you own now so you don't need to buy new....cut expenses. All smart options. And learn more SS ways. Tougher times are coming for so many folks!
Wifezilla
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Interesting indicator of the economy.
The local flea market is glutted with sellers. Usually there is a pretty set amount of sellers. Today, one of the regulars told me there were new people selling EVERYWHERE. Not a lot of "commercial" sellers either. Just people trying to dump extra stuff and make a few bucks.
I spent the day planting a "community" garden. Me and 3 other members of my book club are all in on it. One friend provided land and water. The rest of us provide starter plants, seeds, the use of a roto tiller and labor. We did one last year and got a lot of lettuce, kale, zucchini and pumpkins. We expanded the plot this year and are also growing tomatoes, peppers, melons, squash and a bunch of greens.
I still have my garden here at home, but this will help supplement what I can grow on my little lot.
The local flea market is glutted with sellers. Usually there is a pretty set amount of sellers. Today, one of the regulars told me there were new people selling EVERYWHERE. Not a lot of "commercial" sellers either. Just people trying to dump extra stuff and make a few bucks.
I spent the day planting a "community" garden. Me and 3 other members of my book club are all in on it. One friend provided land and water. The rest of us provide starter plants, seeds, the use of a roto tiller and labor. We did one last year and got a lot of lettuce, kale, zucchini and pumpkins. We expanded the plot this year and are also growing tomatoes, peppers, melons, squash and a bunch of greens.
I still have my garden here at home, but this will help supplement what I can grow on my little lot.
reinbeau
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Here's another little indicator - don't laugh - the local cow manure delivery is down from $65 to $50. Seriously. I split a load with my neighbor every other year (this is some great well-rotted manure, I've been adding it to my gardens for years now). Two years ago he went up to $65 and I almost didn't order it. At $50 we've got a delivery coming on Wednesday 
unclejoe
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We also have a small bartering group coming together. One couple has mountains of fruits and berries. Two of us have fowl of one kind or another. One has a couple cows and we're up to ten goats. We are probably in a better position than the others though since we have a 20' well that can be hand pumped if need be. No filtering required.justusnak said:
Something else we stocked up on for barter is 22LR.
Tallman
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I think that a person needs to figure out how to make it through the winter months. Food, water, and a source of heat. We don't have a bartering group set up; however, I think one could come together nicely if it comes to that. BIL has some cattle, and I can whip BIL so I think that's taken care of. There is one acre taken off of the farm where we live, and on this acre sits an old one room schoolhouse. This old schoolyard has the original water well with a hand pump on it that was reworked about 10 years ago. It works fine. As for heat, we have our own gas well. I spent some money on it last year so it is fixed up better than ever.unclejoe said:We also have a small bartering group coming together. One couple has mountains of fruits and berries. Two of us have fowl of one kind or another. One has a couple cows and we're up to ten goats. We are probably in a better position than the others though since we have a 20' well that can be hand pumped if need be. No filtering required.
Something else we stocked up on for barter is 22LR.
FarmerChick
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making it thru winter is like olden times....canning and preserving to survive. Learn these skills to "put up" all the summer bounty.Tallman said:I think that a person needs to figure out how to make it through the winter months. Food, water, and a source of heat. We don't have a bartering group set up; however, I think one could come together nicely if it comes to that. BIL has some cattle, and I can whip BIL so I think that's taken care of. There is one acre taken off of the farm where we live, and on this acre sits an old one room schoolhouse. This old schoolyard has the original water well with a hand pump on it that was reworked about 10 years ago. It works fine. As for heat, we have our own gas well. I spent some money on it last year so it is fixed up better than ever.unclejoe said:We also have a small bartering group coming together. One couple has mountains of fruits and berries. Two of us have fowl of one kind or another. One has a couple cows and we're up to ten goats. We are probably in a better position than the others though since we have a 20' well that can be hand pumped if need be. No filtering required.
Something else we stocked up on for barter is 22LR.
heat? Gas well? I don't understand this one...could you explain it more?
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Tall has her own gas well located on her property that she has tapped into and uses.
Yes, it is going to get somewhat worse before it gets better. Theft seems to be worse than ever, and crime in general in the city, so I have read.
The problem with crime in the city is, I wonder how long it will take to spill over into the country? How about midnight raids on my garden to steal my food? How will unrulely people act when bread goes to $4 a loaf?
As a x-military man, I took several steps to put security measures in when I first moved here. Some things like putting up barbed wire fences to slow people down, motion detectors around my property with alarms in the house, and clearing fields of fire in order to observe and/or act if need be.
Last summer I caught a young couple doing the hanky panky at 1238 am, they drove up my shop driveway about 40 feet in. What they didn't know is that they triggered a motion detecter, which set off alarm number two. I walked down in the darkness of the woods and pushed down on the car. I have since put up a gate, but they got the message and drove off.
Deer often set the alarms off, but I handle each time as if it is an inturder. Myself, DW and DS are all well trained in the use of weapons. I am by know means a gun slinger, but rather a quietly, legally, armed citizen.
As most of you know I am a huge fan of bartering, I often practice this form of trading goods/services with other folks and businesses. I don't know about setting up a group, but thinking about it, it could be done with the right people with the right goods.
It took me some time to figure out how to make my own bread, which should be one of the most simple SS things to do. On the other hand, I have some very good canning skills. I also know how to make some brines for meats, although my bacon doesn't taste like the most popular brand, its pretty good. I also have a jerky brine to use in the winter, after a 3 week soak, its brought in the house to dry and stores for 8 months or more. I also like to smoke my own meat.
Here is a little SS trick to use;
Make lots of friends, I say/use "friends lightly" in late summer early fall. Hunters often are into the thrill of the hunt and the harvest, but not so much into the meat, including the toughest parts of the deer. I was given 4 deer necks this last fall from people that don't know how to cook it. I also was given 2 front shoulders, all this free meat added well over 40lbs.
Also don't be shy about hunting cleaning foul or small game. If wild meat taste funny to you, there are many recipes that will mask the taste.
I also have a spring that is piped into my basement, it also runs in the winter.
Being here, I have learned loads of stuff about being more SS from you folks, I still have lots to learn.
Yes, it is going to get somewhat worse before it gets better. Theft seems to be worse than ever, and crime in general in the city, so I have read.
The problem with crime in the city is, I wonder how long it will take to spill over into the country? How about midnight raids on my garden to steal my food? How will unrulely people act when bread goes to $4 a loaf?
As a x-military man, I took several steps to put security measures in when I first moved here. Some things like putting up barbed wire fences to slow people down, motion detectors around my property with alarms in the house, and clearing fields of fire in order to observe and/or act if need be.
Last summer I caught a young couple doing the hanky panky at 1238 am, they drove up my shop driveway about 40 feet in. What they didn't know is that they triggered a motion detecter, which set off alarm number two. I walked down in the darkness of the woods and pushed down on the car. I have since put up a gate, but they got the message and drove off.
Deer often set the alarms off, but I handle each time as if it is an inturder. Myself, DW and DS are all well trained in the use of weapons. I am by know means a gun slinger, but rather a quietly, legally, armed citizen.
As most of you know I am a huge fan of bartering, I often practice this form of trading goods/services with other folks and businesses. I don't know about setting up a group, but thinking about it, it could be done with the right people with the right goods.
It took me some time to figure out how to make my own bread, which should be one of the most simple SS things to do. On the other hand, I have some very good canning skills. I also know how to make some brines for meats, although my bacon doesn't taste like the most popular brand, its pretty good. I also have a jerky brine to use in the winter, after a 3 week soak, its brought in the house to dry and stores for 8 months or more. I also like to smoke my own meat.
Here is a little SS trick to use;
Make lots of friends, I say/use "friends lightly" in late summer early fall. Hunters often are into the thrill of the hunt and the harvest, but not so much into the meat, including the toughest parts of the deer. I was given 4 deer necks this last fall from people that don't know how to cook it. I also was given 2 front shoulders, all this free meat added well over 40lbs.
Also don't be shy about hunting cleaning foul or small game. If wild meat taste funny to you, there are many recipes that will mask the taste.
I also have a spring that is piped into my basement, it also runs in the winter.
Being here, I have learned loads of stuff about being more SS from you folks, I still have lots to learn.
big brown horse
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We have been bartering since November on my daughter's horse back riding lessons. The stable accepts "working" donations, feed and hay donations, beet pulp donations etc. for a first class riding lesson.
Just look at craigslist, nobody is using cash, they are all accepting trades!! (They are even listing acceptable trade items on the ad.) I traded a saddle for a saddle about 3 months ago.
This weekend the farmers market and garage sales were out of control!!
Our local thrift shop says their donations are way down and they suspect that people who would normally donate are selling their items or just holding on to them and not buying new items.
Just look at craigslist, nobody is using cash, they are all accepting trades!! (They are even listing acceptable trade items on the ad.) I traded a saddle for a saddle about 3 months ago.
This weekend the farmers market and garage sales were out of control!!
Our local thrift shop says their donations are way down and they suspect that people who would normally donate are selling their items or just holding on to them and not buying new items.
FarmerChick
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yea we sell each weekend at the farmer markets, as it is a real income for us. Have done it for over 10 years.
Now, everyone is selling. More spots are taken up by backyard tomatoe people just to sell off a few and make a buck.
In the end, the real farmers start early, stay thru the season and never leave, the others do...and customers don't know their practices at all........that is what keeps my customers coming back time and time. They know us, know how we farm and form bonds. So it doesn't hurt us at all.
Also......
Metal----what spills into the country from the cities...well don't be too worried about it...cause country folks take care of problems that come their way!!
I never "have a problem" I can't fix and make go away..HA HA
just joking of course
Now, everyone is selling. More spots are taken up by backyard tomatoe people just to sell off a few and make a buck.
In the end, the real farmers start early, stay thru the season and never leave, the others do...and customers don't know their practices at all........that is what keeps my customers coming back time and time. They know us, know how we farm and form bonds. So it doesn't hurt us at all.
Also......
Metal----what spills into the country from the cities...well don't be too worried about it...cause country folks take care of problems that come their way!!
I never "have a problem" I can't fix and make go away..HA HA
just joking of course
