Why a starving country rejects US aid

[Mackay]

Back to the topic, after we invaded Iraq and totally devastated them to a non functioning blob on the planet, Monsanto went in with the sanctions and support of US military and raided their seed banks, and took everything. Now the only seed Iraq people can get except for what may have survived somewhere is Monsanto seed.

Think of the consequences of this, and the type of mindset it requres, well I guess its the type of mindset that kills over 100,000 in revenge for 3,000 upon a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 anyway

 

[bibliophile birds]

I cook with olive oil, coconut oil, lard, butter or ghee.

ghee....

 

[Sunny]

I just heard about Monsanto seeds this year. And the more I hear about them the more I hate them. I wish there was a way that they could be stopped.

 

[bibliophile birds]

I just heard about Monsanto seeds this year. And the more I hear about them the more I hate them. I wish there was a way that they could be stopped.

there is and we're doing it. the problem is that the vast majority of people are either oblivious to their evil, not educated enough to know what to avoid, or completely unconcerned. but the more of us who refuse to play Monsanto's game, the closer we are to being rid of them!

 

[bibliophile birds]

one of my favorite ACTUALLY USEFUL aid organizations, Heifer International, is getting some great attention right now. CEO Jo Luck is the co-recipient of this year's World Food Prize. you can read the story here.

 

[~gd]

I wondered when I would run across the Monsanto bashers that were sure to be hiding out on this board well I found you.Consider this, no one is forcing you to buy either GMO or even hybrid seeds. Non-hybrid seed is available from any number of suppliers. Be prepared to pay a little more for them due to the demand and seed saving is fairly labor intensive. While you are growing them I'll be producing 2 pounds for every pound you produced you will be busy seed saving while I am sticking money in the bank. hybrids are just more productive because of hybrid vigor.
GMO seeds are are a whole other matter, they are likely to be less productive than hybrids but save money in other production costs. I manage to avoid them without much effort since they are mostly only available for huge crops like Corn, soybeans and cotton. Do I really care that the underware is GMO cotton? I do not. Do I care that the fuel for my car or truck comes from gmo Soya or corn? I do not. how about giving the conspericy stories a rest unless you have facts to back them.
As for Haiti the people brought it upon themselves. the poor didn't own any land so they stold the trees off it to use for fuel, in a rainy climate that lead to soil errosion and production had been going downhill for years. Of course the peons don't want our seed they have nowhere to plant it they will take money so they can buy food on the open market, no work involved.
Mackay like many people you forget that Iraq invaded Kewit (spelling) that brought on the first war. The first Bush took pity on them because we were killing so many, a cease fire was called which left Saddat in power, in return he made a bunch of promises that he failed to live up to so the second Bush finished the job that Daddy had started. Didn't you learn History or do you just have a short memory?

 

[bibliophile birds]

I wondered when I would run across the Monsanto bashers that were sure to be hiding out on this board well I found you. Consider this, no one is forcing you to buy either GMO or even hybrid seeds. Non-hybrid seed is available from any number of suppliers. Be prepared to pay a little more for them due to the demand and seed saving is fairly labor intensive. While you are growing them I'll be producing 2 pounds for every pound you produced you will be busy seed saving while I am sticking money in the bank.

last time i checked none of us were hiding... we're pretty out in the open about it. and many of us don't buy Monsanto (or any) GMO seeds. and i can't speak for anyone else, but if the only thing i was concerned about was "sticking money in the bank" i'd have found a different career and lifestyle.

hybrids are just more productive because of hybrid vigor.

i don't think anyone has a particular problem with hybrids, in general... hybrids occur naturally, and even selective hybridization can be a good thing.

as for the rest of your statement, well i don't think there is any point in attempting to educate you on how misguided you are if you could seriously believe that poor people, in Haiti or elsewhere, are personally to blame for centuries of systematic abuse and neglect that have left them impoverished and powerless. let us remember that Haiti was colonized by rich and violent slave owners who, when the slaves finally revolted, abandoned the nation, destroying pretty much everything they could in the hope that the free gens du couleur and slaves would basically die from starvation and the land could be recolonized.

Haiti is the only nation ever born from a slave revolt and Haitians are proud people who aren't about to submit to another form of slavery after 206 years.

 

[noobiechickenlady]

Amen bbirds! I'm sure not hiding. Down with Monsanto.

It's not just buying seeds. Its the monopoly they are trying to force on so many farmers. And farmers that get put out of business because their fields get contaminated with Monsanto genes.

Just like they are doing with the Haitians, trying to force people into being perpetual customers or have their farms go down in flames because of lawsuits.

What the heck is GMO corn doing growing in far off fields in Mexico, where there are no Monsanto fields for hundreds of miles? That means the corn seed I save next year may not be a pure seed, it may carry GMO genes.

I buy heirlooms and not hybrids because I CAN save the seeds, and get a fairly reliable result (when I personally can get the seeds to sprout & grow reliably, but that's just my inexperience with seed starting) I don't want to have to greenhouse & filter the ventilation system to keep my seed bank pure.

Almost all of the soybeans grown in the US now are Monsanto seeds. Much of the corn. Two main items in many, many processed foods.

If I buy veggi oil, its not made from veggies, its made from soybeans. So I stopped buying veggie oil.

But this thread isn't about GMOs, hybrids or even really just Monsanto. This is about dirty pool that corporations play to get in our pockets & how they want us (the common man all across the world) to become essentially enslaved to them.

We don't like it. Period.

 

[2dream]

What noobie and bbirds said.

 

[Mackay]

GM0 modifed seed ruins crops that are adjacent to it. Monsanto tresspasses on other farmers lands, steals samples of their crop, then sues them if their crop carries their genes.

And I know my history dam well.

We were told that the answer to 9/11 was to invade Iraq. Period.
It was a lie.

We were told that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, actually the very weapons that the US provided him with and trained his scientists in on US soil. the same weapons that saddam used on the Kurds.... that we gave him.

When saddam could not produce chemical weapons at our request during the sanctions period because he didn't have them we attacked. To this day no chemical weapons have been found or any weapons of mass destruction at all on Iraq soil.

I would say that we are the terrorists for supplying people like Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons.

Now we further crush these people by demanding that they purchase dead seed, a people who had long been pursecuted and tortured by their government.

and oh the dirty deeds Monsanto has done in India, causing the starvation of thousands.

and I do not hide. I am a monsanto basher and proud of it. Anyone who uses their products or supports that company should be ashamed.