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The problem is that this instructor has been doing this for twenty years. When random people approach you at your study place *cough, cough, the bar, cough, cough* and ask which school you're going to, then say "That's the one I graduated from! That nasty instructor, O.... isn't still there is she?" I mean, literally, it's gone back as far as twenty years. But, I'm not backing down. I'm not accepting a sweet little coordinator telling me "it's truely a shame, you're so bright" to console me. Mrs Mean Ass just met Ms Determined.
 

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Bettacreek said:
The problem is that this instructor has been doing this for twenty years. When random people approach you at your study place *cough, cough, the bar, cough, cough* and ask which school you're going to, then say "That's the one I graduated from! That nasty instructor, O.... isn't still there is she?" I mean, literally, it's gone back as far as twenty years. But, I'm not backing down. I'm not accepting a sweet little coordinator telling me "it's truely a shame, you're so bright" to console me. Mrs Mean Ass just met Ms Determined.
Lawyer up! I soooooo would. You can find one who will do it on a percentage, because it sounds like you have wayyyyy more evidence against her for discrimination than she does to have you put out of school. I'd make them pay, not in a straight up revenge way, but more for the sake of future students. That is just a horrible way to treat folks :/
 

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Wannabefree said:
Lawyer up! I soooooo would. You can find one who will do it on a percentage, because it sounds like you have wayyyyy more evidence against her for discrimination than she does to have you put out of school. I'd make them pay, not in a straight up revenge way, but more for the sake of future students. That is just a horrible way to treat folks :/
EXACTLY! She's such a nutbag that I truely feel sorry for some of the girls who are still there. A good friend of mine (who I call Sharkbait) is extremely timid, will never confront anyone, and she's literally just straight up shark bait for that instructor. Anyways, when they dismissed me from the school, she was furious, she was fully prepared to stomp into the office and tell them that they had absolutely no right to dismiss me, and if they had the itch to dismiss someone, it should be the instructor, lol. God love her. I told her to keep her mouth quiet, don't say a word to anyone, or she'll be the next to go... The reviews from all of the students, made anonymously in a classroom setting, on computers, is enough, they've voiced their opinions already about how unfair and nasty she is, and how very unapproachable she is and, well, the list could go on and on, lol.
 

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I'd be calling lawyers today. Plain and simple. That's just awful, and I am not one to want to jump up and grab a lawyer and take things to court, but this is just disturbing what she's doing. Sorry you;re the one with the target on your back, but maybe you're supposed to be BECAUSE you'll stand up for yourself and oust the devil. things like this just get under my skin :/
 

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To be honest, I think they have been planning on asking her to retire at the end of this year. It probably ended up just getting old hearing about how much she dislikes me that it was "affordable" to get rid of me just to make the rest of the year more tolerable. But, when the coordinator of the program has to redo all of her reviews (because she's not doing focused reviews as the school states she's supposed to) after clinical days, and even one of the exams we had to retake, because out of 21 or so students, 3 passed. Highest grade was 84%. She had the audacity to walk in and say to the class "well obviously you didn't study or do the readings". Which is utter BS. I never study for exams. I've studied for maybe 4-5 exams throughout the year, and have always been on honors. This exam, I felt that I had learned absolutely nothing for it, so I did my review paper she hands to us for every exam, I studied that, as well as the 15 pages of 12 font notes, PLUS I read all of the chapters she recommended for the outline. The most I've ever, ever studied was a review page. I've never put that amount of effort into studying, and yet, I still did crappy on the test. If I had been the only one, then sure, something was defunct in my brain, but the ENTIRE CLASS?! Arg. The woman still drives me crazy!
 

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Well, another call today to request paperwork on the report failed. They're avoiding me, the secretary said that she didn't think she was allowed to give them to me. So, within the next half hour, I'll be presenting a letter to them in person and a letter will be going out via registered mail. I've had it. Under FERPA they cannot withhold it from me, and if they want to keep irritating me, then I'll be reporting it to the Board of Education. I'm just plain and simply done. If they honestly felt that my dismissal was fair, they'd cough that paperwork up without any problem.
 

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Even if the, uh, instructor isn't retired, perhaps you will keep this behavior from ruining someone elses faith or career.
 

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Even if the, uh, instructor isn't retired, perhaps you will keep this behavior from ruining someone elses faith or career.
Exactly. She can't continue on the way she is. I texted a few other girls, and at least one other person heard her bragging about students being afraid of her. She's trying to remember the other student who was there. I didn't realize that anyone else was around, I was so shocked by the blatent arrogance of the woman to even check to see who else was around. But, yes, even if I do not get back into this school, at the very least, this woman has GOT to stop destroying other people. When students are crying, quitting school, etc on a regular basis because of this instructor, then, well, it's just got to stop. One student left and when I tried to talk her into coming back she said that she just doesn't think that nursing is the job for her anymore. This woman had shredded this girl's dreams, and, in my humble opinion, I believe she would have made a good, caring nurse. Another student quit and returned to the same school as the "January class" with different instructors. I'm glad that she at least realized that just because this instructor is a nut bag, doesn't mean that she would make a bad nurse (because again, I believe that she's also a very caring soul who would make an excellent nurse). This instructor has ruined enough peoples' dreams and lives. If she's that damned miserable, then maybe SHE should find a new line of work.
As for the school, I really, really don't want to be a troublemaker, however, the fact that they can't support their reasoning behind dismissing me from the school, and are now refusing to provide documentation (which my right to this documentation is protected by FERPA, and even listed in their handbook), I'm starting to get very short of patience. I've tried to be as polite and kind as possible, thanking them for their time when they talked to me on the phone, apologizing for making numerous requests for this documentation, etc. But apparantly, nice doesn't cut it. I'm done talking to them. Everything from this point on will be handled in hard copy letter form.
 

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Well, I took a letter in today. They called back (they were on lunch break). A lot happened. They said that it was all stuff that I would have seen during the last evals anyways. I said I wanted this specific paper and any other bad documentation they had on me (one for having dirty pants bottoms because I didn't roll them up when walking in on a rainy day, my bad) and I said that under FERPA I have the right to copies of any of my papers that I wish. I was put on hold again for ten minutes. The secretary comes back and says "we're searching the code book, hold on one more minute" I told her to hold on one minute and I'd tell them the page number, I did and they forgot to put me back on official hold, so I could hear everything... The coordinator says "yeah, it's there. Give her the papers, we've got late portfolio work from her so she can't do anything about it anyways". I pretended that I didn't hear any of this, went and collected my paperwork. There is no documentation of this incident. Basically, this incident never happened. BASICALLY, they dismissed me without the grounds to dismiss me. And if she wants to play the game of late portfolio work, she sure can try, because it will only make them look even more like they're just digging to find ANYTHING to get rid of me, because another girl was FIVE WEEKS late with nothing more than "keep on top of it". Not to mention that if they wanted to kick me out for portfolio work being late, they should have done it before 2/8, when they checked my portfolio off and wrote in my eval that portfolio work was much improved this level (last level I had some issues with getting it "completed" on time, because she asked stupid things of me that she didn't require of other students). So... anything they do is only going to shoot themselves in the foot at this point. Their best bet would have been to simply say, I'm sorry, we made a mistake, we'll see you on Monday, in class.

ETA: Our due dates are different for portfolio work. The class was split up into two different groups. Mine was completely checked off "to their satisfaction" on 2/8. The other girl's stuff was due at an earlier date. Her observation papers that were due 1/30 were completed on 3/5. Her other portfolio work (unsure of due dates, because of the way they work, they don't have specific due dates) was not finished until the very end of 3/9, because the rest of the class, myself included, had to wait until she was finished with it so she could have her eval, until we could leave.
 
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