Coronavirus Concern Up

[creativetwinszoo]

i have a book here which describes how to butcher a pig. i have cleaned fish in the past. kinda doubt i'll have to do it in the future, but if i had to i could do it. yet, to me eating meat isn't a big deal, i can mostly do without it. i have beans and peas for cooking and those are a heck of a lot easier to cook up. no risk of much in the way of diseases from cleaning and eating them either. most i have to worry about here is tripping over a rake, a rock or stepping on a rusty nail. stuff that is normal day to day here.
what i'm hoping for is that more people get into gardening. i have a lot of beans to keep giving away.

We learned how to process a pig mostly once it's dead not too long ago, sorta on the kill process (someone put a gun in the ear and we waited till it was done in the death throes) definitely was a task but an accomplish able one. I think currently I prefer chicken and bird butcher n process, though I can do rabbit mostly too. Can do most the breakdown for large animals once dressed out tho.

to me they are expensive, not very good and a lot of waste packaging to throw away. i much prefer fresh food that comes from the gardens or is stuff we put up. that's the best all around as i know what goes in it when we put it up and i love the fact that it is packaged in glass jars so i don't have to taste the plastic or metal.

I agree with price and taste, I definatly agree with the amount of waste so much wasted packaging.

 

[flowerbug]

i'm only a bit worried that perhaps the greenhouse we get our starts for the garden might not have enough this season if they have issues with getting supplies or too many people swarm them for plants before we can get ours. i normally do not save or plant seeds for our garden starts because the greenhouse has always done a good job of that and space is tight here. hmm... i guess we'll cross that road when we come to it. still a few months away so perhaps things will be calmed down by then.

 

[flowerbug]

Poultry is easy to process. You're very unlikely to actually get any illness from home processed poultry.

Now commercial poultry here you have to be very careful with because of their processing method. It's all water cooled and ends up contaminating all of it. I know some other countries are more sensible and air cool but that takes longer.

I have a friend who worked at a poulty processing plant when he got out of the Navy. Was the worst 2 years of his life. He won't touch chicken or turkey anymore. Well he said if I dry iced a processed silkie and sent it to him, he'd actually try it.

we have a friend who worked at a beef/pig processing plant, he can tell some stories, if it is just me and him we can talk about whatever even if we are eating it - it doesn't gross me out - as long as i don't have to see or smell it i'm ok.

very rarely do i buy mass/commercially processed chicken. many years ago i was getting food related sickness once in a while and and decided to stop eating chicken. now instead of getting sick several times a month it happens perhaps just once or twice a year. i do still eat chicken at a few places when we go out to eat, but as of yet they seem to be doing things ok and i don't get ill from their food.

we don't cook chicken here often at all any more. i like beef a few times a week but that is plenty. pork is a few times a month but we've been on a sliced honey ham kick lately so we've been having that around more often than before. i more like fruits, veggies and of course the cooked dry beans and plenty of other things.

i do not get sick from pork or beef, but i am also pretty careful in what i buy and how i cook it. i used to like very rare (cold center) steaks and could eat tartare without worrying, but not any more. if i get ground beef or ground chuck i cook that a lot more than before. like to where the center has just gone past pink. beyond that i don't like it unless it is an ingredient in something else like chili or spaghetti sauce or ghoulash. more often than not though i just make a burger and fry it with some garlic salt. that's easy and is good enough.

 

[Chic Rustler]

If that happens, IMO, the CV issue is merely a convenient excuse. There is a far bigger agenda going on behind the scenes.

right

 

[Daisy]

Ancient diseases? LOL LOL

Yep!

As if cyclones, crocodiles and stingers weren't enough to worry about, Western Australians are being warned to take precautions against a potentially deadly and ancient disease that may have been stirred up by recent cyclones.

Cyclones stir up ancient killer dirt disease, and it's heading towards Perth

Following the stormy weather Western Australians should take care to avoid being infected by an ancient and almost invisible disease.

www.abc.net.au

(maybe I should mention that abc australia is completely different to ABC America.)

I don't have a pot big enough to fit a duck in anyway

We have strict practices on commercial meat processing here, it actually tastes very different to meat in the USA! Oz is a small population in comparison so animal processing is policed by the RSPCA and incredibly strict health regulations. I think I have mentioned that it is actually illegal to sell eggs or produce without a food permit. (It doesn't always stop people, swapping is ok, as long as you don't get caught Like me having 12 ducks haha )

America really is the land of the free, many of you would bawk at the regulations and restrictions we are subject to down under. It is all I have known, so I am mostly ok with it. One of the reasons why I enjoy international forums so much. Like a window into another world, different cultural practices and accepted behaviour. Always a joy to learn from others in unique ways.



A state of emergency has been declared here. Another jump in cases but still mainly restricted to the capital city. My friends horse is in the vet after colic surgery, now suffering with laminitis and she cant go visit him So sad cos he is such a mummies boy. I took his grand dam to state champion level. Oh how I miss her, but glad I no longer have horses in these expensive times.


I sort of love alternative theories on world wide events, but I haven't seen any remarkable theory about the virus yet.

My musing in the yard lead me to feeling that it is a bit like a practice run for something coming later. A slow shut down of the boarders. A test of the population during a *mild* virus. Being an island nation shutting the boarders FAST would keep us safe when a more deadly disease comes along. My hope is that we start to produce more stuff on our own soil. As mentioned canning/tinned food isn't widely done here. The tins I have in my pantry from the shops are from USA, Italy and Thailand. Factories have been thinning out for decades. It will be interesting to see how seeding and harvest runs this year without people being allowed in on work visas. Maybe I'll get my chance to learn how to drive one of those massive seeding tractors after all!

 

[FarmerJamie]

Hmmm, Ohio governor was very combative last night about the young adults/kids not following the state guidelines in social distancing.

 

[flowerbug]

Only Marshall law if the citizens refuse to follow the rules.

they can't possibly enforce it all as people have to go out once in a while for supplies. and in the larger cities there's not enough delivery capacity either. so i kinda doubt it, but we'll see. IMO they didn't shut the airlines and borders down quickly enough. way back in January when i first heard about this i posted a note to a forum saying they weren't taking this seriously enough.

over 10,000 people dead already says this isn't some made up thing, it's real, it has serious consequences, and i don't want to lose any parents or others i love to this disease.

we shut the airlines and borders down for 9/11 and by far this is worse. at least until we knew what the situation was like and could set up quarantines for anyone travelling in from overseas.

 

[flowerbug]

ancient diseases, yes, that is known to science. in times from before if it happened there weren't enough people around to be affected and they didn't have the genetic sequencing capabilities they have now.

with more people getting into everything all over the place, yep, it's likely to happen and perhaps even be an issue.

i wouldn't rule it out. i'm sorry you find it funny as i wouldn't want yet another disease getting into circulation just because someone thought it was funny and not worth bothering about or taking seriously.

 

[FarmerJamie]

Had an interesting discussion with the wife. What if this current situation was just a run through?

The Twilight Zone The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street - Google Search

g.co

 

[flowerbug]

as far as i'm concerned things have been too lax for a long time with travel and diseases let alone letting local manufacturers collapse, but that's just me.

sometimes cheaper ends up costing more in the end...