Denim Deb Hay, hay, hay. Thank the Lord!

[rebecca100]

Oh, yes she got a good smack on the nose! DH is going to build a round pen. As for right now, I have the baby with me during the day and I really don't want my 3 year old anywhere near this horse. As for respect she has NONE! None at all. She sees humans as no more than something that brings feed. Thats how we got her-she spun and kicked her former owner over a dropped feed bucket. Of course we werent let know of her whole anger/meanness problem until later when dh's friend told us that she has run them out of the pasture before and tried to get them many times. She is used to being run from and getting her way. I have worked with her and am now able to brush her and pick up her front feet. I want dh with me when I do her back feet because I can only keep track of what one end is doing at a time! I cant watch mouth and hooves both at the same time. The other day I had her out and she reached for some hay and I pulled her head back from it. She reached for it again and when I pulled her from it again she laid her ears back and bit at me out of pure meanness since I wouldn't let her have the hay. She fully thinks she is the boss. i can see quickly that it is going to be a battle of wills.

 

[MsPony]

Dh's horse was stinkin' mean the other day. She has had an attitude since we got her, but she had started to calm down, I thought. I went to check her hay before I got her grain and I petted and talked to her for a second. As I ran my hand down her neck she shot her ears back and I saw her teeth flash as I threw up my arm and she bit me on it. I couldn't get back because I was beside the wall. Fortunately she mostly got my jacket so I wasn't hurt bad. My arm was bruised and sore the next day, but that was it. Mean heifer. Or rather mean, really big horse.

I actually wonder if she's in pain, is she rubbing out her mane anywhere? Was it lower neck near withers? Is she a riding horse? Is she in heat?

Very few horses do things out of meanness. My own gelding, when he has an ulcer flare up, will pin his ears and bite if I so much as adjust a blanket.

You can PM me for help if you want

 

[Farmfresh]

The "Three Second Rule" applies to any dangerous behavior - especially biting... 3 seconds to begin the correction, 3 seconds to KILL them , 3 seconds to stop.

Another method is the round pen. I trained a little bay mare for my Aunt one time that would kick you if you disturbed her with her grain. She made the mistake of taking a double barrel kick at me (which grazed my stomach) while in the round pen where I was feeding her. I was able to instantly start her to work. Later ... much later in the day... she had permanently changed her mind about that little idea. My Aunt still has the mare and she has never kicked at a person again.

Be careful out there!

 

[Denim Deb]

Licorice will get attitude at times. And when she does, we head for the RP. And I know she's not in pain. Just sometimes she needs to be reminded as to who's the boss. Lately, I just haven't been working w/her enough, just don't have the time. And she was getting a bit of an attitude today. So, once the weather breaks, we have an appointment w/the RP.

In other news, went to the hay auction today. I didn't get anything. The prices were terrible! Nothing went for under $30.00 a bale, and the nicest looking stuff went for over $50.00! Next year, I won't have this problem. I will have all my hay bought by the end of September at the latest.

After the hay auction, there's a livestock auction. Normally, I don't stay for it. I don't need any animals, and it's rare for me to even see anything I want to buy. Well, today was different. They had the cutest little Nubian bucklin. He was 10 days old. I would have loved to have bought him and was curious to see what he went for. They put him on a box on the counter. When they went to auction him off, they looked in the box, and he wasn't there. They asked, where'd he go? Silly question. He was in my arms getting loved on until he got sold. He went for $40.00 If RU had gone w/me, she would have been bidding on him.

 

[Farmfresh]

Wow, you showed some will power there! I am proud of you.

 

[Denim Deb]

It's probably for the best. I don't know anything about breeding goats and I want to learn more b4 I think about it. In some of the threads they've mentioned different things you need to watch for. And since I don't know what they are, don't know even if my girls have it and I'm not set up for a buck (nor do I think the neighbors would appreciate it), I'm waiting. Never wanted a buck b4, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe one day.......(Y'all are corrupting me!)

 

[Farmfresh]

Personally I got over the idea of keeping my own buck the first time I watched one pee all over his own head to make himself attractive!

I think the ONLY way I personally would keep one was if he were part of a big weeding herd and FAR away from my house. I would just take my doe's to one or use AI. (I have a friend that raises champion Boers and they do a LOT of AI and even embryo transfer - short plug for her place http://www.mandcfarms.com/)

 

[savingdogs]

I plan on copying Freemotion's idea of having a buckling old enough to service my does but not stinky yet, then sell him. We don't eat goat.
But that way we won't have to have a stinky adult here again. We did that last year and I was surprised at how much the smell bothered us. I'm used to animal odors, but we could not WAIT for the buck to be gone.

I was hoping to invest in a nice little mini nubian buckling this summer and then sell him next winter, hopefully for around the same price. That is how I bred my does this year, I bought and sold a buck. But that peeing on themselves certainly does not endear them to me, that is for sure. I'll never forget my son's faces the first time they saw him do that!

 

[rebecca100]

I love nubians!!! $40 is a little high though for a 10 day old around here anyway. And not knowing the stock he was out of it was probably better to have passed him up.

We have a kiko buck. He stinks year round. If i weren't for the fact I raised him and got attached to his stinky old rear, then he would have been gone a long time ago.

 

[savingdogs]

I wish I could use a nubian buck! But my does are too small! Their mom was a 3/4 nigy 1/4 pygmy and their dad a full sized nubian and she had triplets! Luckily she was okay and they are my three goaties.
But that was an accident by the breeder and I won't do that on purpose. I could not find a reasonably priced mini nubian last year to breed to. The closest was 5 hours away and 200 dollars each! So, I bought a non-registered nigy buck, very cute and flashy but no papers. He is the one we are thankful he is gone.

But I can't wait to see if the babies get his markings!