Do you ever . . .

[Toulle]

Sometimes, when I'm feeling beaten down by existence, I'll wish people would just... disappear. I don't care how. All I want to see sometimes when I look out our windows is stillness. No people. No cars or trucks moving around. I don't care if the vehicles are parked at the side of the road even. No planes in the sky.

Silence, and stillness and peace to do my thing, for myself and my husband. No interfereance from government, nosy neighbors, or anything. Natural sounds; birds, animals, digging in the dirt, etc.

It's not really a wish for S to HTF. It's more a wish for people of all sorts to bugger off, and let me and mine alone to live our lives the way we see fit.

Do I secretly wish it would happen? At my most bitter and aggravated, yes. Usually though, no. Usually, I just want to be left alone.

Yep

 

[sunsaver]

Spoiled brats deserve to get a SHTF, but i dont wish for it, just expect it to happen again. TSHTF in Vermont and New Jersey. Its no Katrina, but it's bad enough. I wonder how many days of food those brats have on hand. They probably don't even know how to cook!

It's no Katrina? Says who? It is for those who are trapped in their communities who are getting goods dropped by helicopter to survive until help can get in there to rescue them. Some spots are just as bad, if not worse, than Katrina. It's just more spread out, and there aren't a bunch of thugs shooting and looting down the streets. It's pretty bad though. The flooding is worse. The damage totals will likely be much worse. 13 states...not 4. Yeah...it's Katrina for the East coast

Katrina was a cat.5 storm. Thousands of people died in katrna. I was not trying to minimize Irene, only that it could have been much worse.

 

[Wannabefree]

Spoiled brats deserve to get a SHTF, but i dont wish for it, just expect it to happen again. TSHTF in Vermont and New Jersey. Its no Katrina, but it's bad enough. I wonder how many days of food those brats have on hand. They probably don't even know how to cook!

It's no Katrina? Says who? It is for those who are trapped in their communities who are getting goods dropped by helicopter to survive until help can get in there to rescue them. Some spots are just as bad, if not worse, than Katrina. It's just more spread out, and there aren't a bunch of thugs shooting and looting down the streets. It's pretty bad though. The flooding is worse. The damage totals will likely be much worse. 13 states...not 4. Yeah...it's Katrina for the East coast

Katrina was a cat.5 storm. Thousands of people died in katrna. I was not trying to minimize Irene, only that it could have been much worse.

Had these folks not evacuated when told, the death toll for Irene would be very similar, if not exceed Katrinas death toll. This was a Cat. 1, but the areas hit affected a lot more people. In the end, it is the flooding that is most dangerous and destructive, not the size of the storm, both to life and property. I was mistaken on one point though, it was 12 states, not 13. There is no minimizing this storm. Indeed it could have been much MUCH worse. TC definately has hit the fan for those folks.

I think they'll do just fine though. People as a whole are not a bunch of dumb animals, this WILL be a wake up call for some, and for others...not so much. It takes all kinds

 

[FarmerJamie]

In regards to the OP, no, I would not wish the stuff to hit the fan. The Bible parable of the talents come to mind here. As someone else mentioned, the world is made of all kinds of people with all sorts of talents and completely different outlooks on life. Its about making the most of what you have, not judging others.

If it does it the fan, I'll just do the best with what I was given and what I have and can share.

 

[k0xxx]

It's no Katrina? Says who? It is for those who are trapped in their communities who are getting goods dropped by helicopter to survive until help can get in there to rescue them. Some spots are just as bad, if not worse, than Katrina. It's just more spread out, and there aren't a bunch of thugs shooting and looting down the streets. It's pretty bad though. The flooding is worse. The damage totals will likely be much worse. 13 states...not 4. Yeah...it's Katrina for the East coast

Katrina was a cat.5 storm. Thousands of people died in katrna. I was not trying to minimize Irene, only that it could have been much worse.

Had these folks not evacuated when told, the death toll for Irene would be very similar, if not exceed Katrinas death toll. This was a Cat. 1, but the areas hit affected a lot more people. In the end, it is the flooding that is most dangerous and destructive, not the size of the storm, both to life and property. I was mistaken on one point though, it was 12 states, not 13. There is no minimizing this storm. Indeed it could have been much MUCH worse. TC definately has hit the fan for those folks.

I think they'll do just fine though. People as a whole are not a bunch of dumb animals, this WILL be a wake up call for some, and for others...not so much. It takes all kinds

I believe that the point Sunsaver was trying to make was that in Katrina, besides the staggering loss of life, an estimated (by the American Red Cross) 340,000 homes were destroyed. While it is a rightly a disaster to anyone that has their home destroyed, comparing the recent hurricane to the one of 29 Aug 2005 is a non-starter. There were a great many more people that ignored the warning to leave for Irene, than there was for Katrina (makes sense with the MUCH great population density). Had the storm not dissipated as much as it did, the death toll would have been massive. YMMV

As to the original question, I for one do not. Granted, a lot of us have different ideas as to just what constitutes the S hitting TF, but what ever way you figure it, I hope that it doesn't come. I'm hoping to live out the last years of my life subsisting on my storage, and blowing whatever income I have on hats. I hope that the oblivious get to live out their remaining years as they want.

Is that the way that I believe things will end up? Nope, but I can have hope too.

Edited to fix a typo

 

[Wannabefree]

Katrina was a cat.5 storm. Thousands of people died in katrna. I was not trying to minimize Irene, only that it could have been much worse.

Had these folks not evacuated when told, the death toll for Irene would be very similar, if not exceed Katrinas death toll. This was a Cat. 1, but the areas hit affected a lot more people. In the end, it is the flooding that is most dangerous and destructive, not the size of the storm, both to life and property. I was mistaken on one point though, it was 12 states, not 13. There is no minimizing this storm. Indeed it could have been much MUCH worse. TC definately has hit the fan for those folks.

I think they'll do just fine though. People as a whole are not a bunch of dumb animals, this WILL be a wake up call for some, and for others...not so much. It takes all kinds

I believe that the point Sunsaver was trying to make was that in Katrina, besides the staggering loss of life, an estimated (by the American Red Cross) 340,000 homes were destroyed. While it is a rightly a disaster to anyone that has their home destroyed, comparing the recent hurricane to the one of 29 Aug 2005 is a non-starter. There were a great many more people that ignored the warning to leave for Irene, than there was for Katrina (makes sense with the MUCH great population density). Had the storm not dissipated as much as it did, the death toll would have been massive. YMMV

I wasn't the one who started the comparison of the two storms. Apples to apples...they are both devastating. I would bet a larger pecentage of folks evacuated for Irene than did for Katrina. I just get tired of hearing the woe is me mentality of how horrible some have/had it and how others are just basically whiners. Just because I was beaten as a child, does not negate the pain other children feel for the abuses they suffer. That was MY point. The whole statement sunsaver made was callous and insensitive. It pissed me off.

 

[k0xxx]

To quote a recent post that saw on another site, "If youre prepared for the zombie apocalypse, a hurricane is just a storm."

 

[TanksHill]

 

[JRmom]

As to the original question, I for one do not. Granted, a lot of us have different ideas as to just what constitutes the S hitting TF, but what ever way you figure it, I hope that it doesn't come. I'm hoping to live out the last years of my life subsisting on my storage, and blowing whatever income I have on hats. I hope that the oblivious get to live out their remaining years as they want.

Is that the way that I believe things will end up? Nope, but I can have hope too.

Yeah, I would love to just be left alone for the rest of my life, quietly gardening, living a simple life. But problems don't go away simply by ignoring them. And the U.S. has a BIG problem. Do I think the S hitting TF is going to be something of Biblical proportions? No. But an economic meltdown is going to be painful for a whole lot of folks. I would almost rather it happen now, so my kids and grandkids can hopefully have a more settled life, without all of this hanging over their heads, just like my dad doesn't want to leave this mess for me to deal with. I have great faith in the majority of U.S. citizens... an economic "reset" will be tough, but I think we can come out the other side better for it.

Am I looking forward to TSHTF? NO! But I don't see any other way out of this tangled web of economic misery. And I'd rather it happen while I'm still here, in good health, able to help my family get through it.

 

[Icu4dzs]

After reading OP again, I seemed to have gleaned another perspective I think Boogity was bothered by and that was the concept of "dis-association", not necessarily the affluence of the group. The affluence is not a sin and not wrong. What he was (in my mind) upset about was the completely disjointed behavior of all of these younger folks who while coming to a party to celebrate the 30th anniversary of some friends by whom they were invited, spent much of the entire evening unable to extract themselves from their "friends" outside the party to whom they were sending text messages and phone calls.

It is one thing to be in contact with the "outside" because of your profession. It certainly is tough for me to go anywhere without having to be callled by someone needing some form of care, but simply to continue conversations unassociated with the group at hand (i.e. at the party) tends to be quite frankly RUDE. Imagine a group of folks you invited to dinner at your home and while they are at the table eating, they spend the majority of the time texting and talking to their "friends" on the cellphone. You'd be insulted, and I think that is what Boogity's complaint was. People were at a gathering where you would imagine they would be focused moreso on the participants and less with outside individuals.

The behavior that appears acceptable to the younger folks does not necessarily equate to the behavior acceptable to old fogies like me and Boogity. We came from a different time when people weren't quite so rude and knew rules of social ettiquette. Now, these rules, like so many of the rules of society with which we grew up have been ignored, forgotten or just never taught. The end result is that folks of this "techno-generation" are quite frankly absolutely rude to folks outside their generation.

It seems that Trim's Observation states "Everyone needs kids their own age to play with" and that holds true regardless of your age. Folks in our country don't mix well across generations unless it is a family gathering. With American families so small, gatherings happen less often because folks are more scattered out acrosss the country. Any family member of mine would have to travel somewhere between 1600 and 4500 miles to come to see me. That just appears to be the way of the world these days. People's loyalty appear to be somewhat degraded by the fact that they are more likely to relate to their "friends" moreso than their family. Families have a tendency to be hard on folks too and that doesn't help cement the love of a family one would like to expect.

Therefore, I do not think it was the obvious examples of affluence that annoyed Boogity as much as the perception of rudeness by the 20-30 something's that attended the party but only partially because most of them were still somewhere else, waiting for something better to come along. People who can't make a committment to something because they are waiting for a better offer are the ones who annoy me the most. You invite them for a social event and they "want to wait and see", meaning, they are hoping for a better offer. Why? Who knows but it is the same type of slap in the face Boogity was noticing.

JMHO

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