glenolam's madness - April passed away

glenolam

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Well, the vet visit wasn't as bad as it could have gone, I guess.

We tested for CL and April, poor thing, is now in seclusion. However, "seclusion" means a beautiful pasture that we had fenced in last year for Meatball's (a calf) birth. We had to pen his mother because of birthing issues and never took down the makeshift fence we made, which actaully works out great. So she's got green grass, leaves and browse, which she does not have in the goat pen since they eat any leaves that pop up before getting a chance to grow. She's also got a whole bale of hay to herself, a 5 gal water bucket of ice cold water (usually has the stream) and I gave her some grain before I left. She can see and talk to the other goats, but can't get to them unless she jumps a 4ft fence, walks across the dirt road/path and jumps the other 4 ft fence.

Anyhoo - my vet said she really doesn't think it's CL because her lymphnodes aren't large like they could/should be if it is CL. Yes, the lumps in/around her udder are suspicious, but it's odd that they're just there and not in any other CL areas. She suggested mycoplasma (k - I think you've mentioned that to me before) so we treated for that. One shot and that's it. I guess mycoplasma is really complicated bacteria that is hard to kill and they came out with a drug labeled for treating goats - Draxxin. So she got a dose of it and we wait and see (I'm not sure of the dose, though). Part of the reason she was thinking mycloplasma was because April had started loosing her hair in clumps in her rump area and I'm still having problems getting weight on her.

So, if she comes back CL- I can breathe, if she clears up because of the Draxxin shot, I can take another breath, but if she comes back CL- and does not clear up because of the shot, it most likely means cancer.

AL- I must say that she's the only goat I've ever had (and I've had several) that has given me issues like this. All 8 other girls I currenlty have are in picture perfect health, only requiring that one session with DiMethox/Safeguard becuase of bad fecals. Other than that it's easy peasy with them. Don't get discouraged!
 

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Well, I guess that is good news/bad news. With the mycoplasma, she should really get a second shot of draxxin. My vet said they need 14 day coverage. But I know every vet has their own opinion. Draxxin is also great for any respiratory problems too. I had a pneumonia problem and the draxxin cleared it all right up.

I can't remember how big your lumps were but it may also be some sort of staph infection. I have been fighting staph infection on my girls udders. I think I finally have it pretty much cleared up and only one girl seems to be left to finish clearing up. This has been one bad year for problems with all that rain we got in the spring.

By the way, it took using Camelid Skin Mix (witches brew) from Light Livestock Supply to finally get the staph under control. I put it on their udder once a day until the bumps were gone. I probably could have done it every other day because this last round I wasn't able to do it every day and it still cleared up just fine.
 

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Karen -just out of curiosity's sake - what does a staph infection look like? :) Always something to learn about goats...
 

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Wow. Is there any fever or other issue associated with it?
All I'm battling right now is a couple of bug bite areas on Rory that have turned patchy and has hair loss. I saw the bug bites happen - one was a bee when I had her on the milk stand.
 

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No, no other symptoms.

The regular treatment is antibiotics like Polyflex or Exceed (by injection) and Hibiclens to put on the udder (can't remember the ingredient in Hibiclens that you are really after). But the Hibiclens stopped working for me and I got desperate and just tried the Camelid Skin Mix.
 

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Javamama said:
Wow. Is there any fever or other issue associated with it?
All I'm battling right now is a couple of bug bite areas on Rory that have turned patchy and has hair loss. I saw the bug bites happen - one was a bee when I had her on the milk stand.
MTG works great on regrowing hair and taking care of skin issues. I keep a bottle of it around all the time and you can just get it at TSC.
 

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I was thinking staph infection, too, but these lumps are literally inside her udder and abdomen, not on her skin and they're definitely not pimply. There's several of them clumped together and move around a little..all different sizes. Just like CL lumps are - they're under her skin and, assuming it's CL, will eventually break though and leak out the bad pus. Or at least that's take on how CL works. :hu

She didn't say April needed a 2nd dose of Draxxin, but I'll ask about it when the test results come back in. If she's positive we'll assume that's what the lumps are and go from there. No sense in buying another dose (it wasn't cheap!) if it won't cure the lumps.

ETA - she did say something about a condition called "Hard Udder" but sorta ruled that out becuase A) April wasn't in milk at all this year and B) from what she's seen, hard udder presents itself as just that - the entire udder is one big hard ball, not a bunch of little bumps/lumps that appear to either be in the udder or really close to the front of it and all along the abdomen.

Unfortunately, it's not like we can take a peek inside and see, which would be really awesome if we could. We'd know if it was in the udder or not and would rule out a lot of stuff. Now it's just treat for this and if it works, great. If not, try something else.
 

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I don't have anything helpful to add, but I hope it works out for her. :fl
 

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Thanks. She's not liking being separated from her herd. She jumped the fence and was wondering the yard when I got home. I'm tired of this crap. One thing after another. Waaa Waa Waaaaaa

On a lighter note, for those of you that enjoy an alcoholic beverage every now and then, may I suggest a Goffee Special? It's FANTASTIC!




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