TanksHill
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Now ain't that the truth!!!FarmerDenise said:
Ohiofarmgirl'sAdventuresinTheGoodLand-where ya been? whatcha been doin
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lorihadams
Always doing laundry
Dang, looks like I missed the uprising while driving home yesterday..... 
Dace
Revolution in Progress
Ahhh....I love you guys!
My marriage is very traditional and personally I do not see anything more imporatnat that raising my children and taking care of my family. Preparing meals and caring for my family makes me feel good....I am so sad (and irritated) for those who feel that it is somehow demeaning or that I am being subserviant!
Stupid feminists have really effed with the heads of women. Very sad that such a crucial role in the family has been swept under the rug as worthless.
My marriage is very traditional and personally I do not see anything more imporatnat that raising my children and taking care of my family. Preparing meals and caring for my family makes me feel good....I am so sad (and irritated) for those who feel that it is somehow demeaning or that I am being subserviant!
Stupid feminists have really effed with the heads of women. Very sad that such a crucial role in the family has been swept under the rug as worthless.
lalaland
Lovin' The Homestead
ummm, Dace? I am a feminist. and most feminists, including me, don't think mothering/parenting is anything but a very important role. I am a mom and a feminist who is very very proud of my 27 year old daughter.
Really, a feminist is anyone, man or woman, who thinks that being a woman does not mean you are stupider than men, less capable than men, deserving equal pay for equal work.....,
someone who isn't a feminist would be someone who thinks that the guys in the workplace with the same job title, job responsibilities, and same experience should get the paid better than a woman, because, well, she is a woman.
a feminist would also be a person who thinks that a woman, should she choose, could work to support her family outside of the home! pretty radical idea, that one.
Did you know (of course you do) that for every dollar men make at the same job, women make 70 cents?
if you have a little boy, and you teach him how to cook, then, heck, you just might be a feminist!
it isn't a dirty word.....and it is sad to see it used as namecalling.
not necessary to knock someone down just to say how proud you are to be able to care for and nurture your family.
apologies to you, OFG, for taking time on your journal to respond to this.
Really, a feminist is anyone, man or woman, who thinks that being a woman does not mean you are stupider than men, less capable than men, deserving equal pay for equal work.....,
someone who isn't a feminist would be someone who thinks that the guys in the workplace with the same job title, job responsibilities, and same experience should get the paid better than a woman, because, well, she is a woman.
a feminist would also be a person who thinks that a woman, should she choose, could work to support her family outside of the home! pretty radical idea, that one.
Did you know (of course you do) that for every dollar men make at the same job, women make 70 cents?
if you have a little boy, and you teach him how to cook, then, heck, you just might be a feminist!
it isn't a dirty word.....and it is sad to see it used as namecalling.
not necessary to knock someone down just to say how proud you are to be able to care for and nurture your family.
apologies to you, OFG, for taking time on your journal to respond to this.
MsPony
Lovin' The Homestead
Lala, I think we are confusing different feminists here, have you read this thread? 2 or 3 pages back Bibiliophile posted something by a french feminist that got us all hair raised!
I am of feminist thought like you lala, however in response to the french feminist, I WILL breastfeed my child and do non-disposable diapers, because its HEALTHIER. My manager breastfed (btw I work for a lesbian, its an all woman store, who says women cant run a successful business?) and feeds all organic baby food. She commented that the boys at her kids daycare, their poo smelled BAD, I said its because they probably fed their babies modern day crap. She said its true, they feed their kids (who arent one!!) cheezits.
I am of feminist thought like you lala, however in response to the french feminist, I WILL breastfeed my child and do non-disposable diapers, because its HEALTHIER. My manager breastfed (btw I work for a lesbian, its an all woman store, who says women cant run a successful business?) and feeds all organic baby food. She commented that the boys at her kids daycare, their poo smelled BAD, I said its because they probably fed their babies modern day crap. She said its true, they feed their kids (who arent one!!) cheezits.
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golly i just got back in and it looks and lots of stuff happened!
as far as outside goes.. man its HOT... i'm done for the day. got some things weeded but the big headline is that we are going to work on extracting our honey today!!! i'm so excited. The Big Man was groaning as he was carrying the supers (the honey holding parts) of the hives up the hill. we are hoping for a bumper crop.. or those bees put rocks in it just to mess with us!
speaking of bees in our bonnets...
i think BB said it very well - good help IS hard to find.
around here i'm the carpenter (you should see my 12" compound mitre saw whoot!) but i've only looked under the hood of my truck once (under duress). while i'm on "life" - pippin' chicks out and bein' in the splash zone when the goats kid (and then puking shortly after) - The Big Man is on death (he has to dig the sad holes and deal with "the bodies" of our losses.
i'm better at seeing who is sick before my man - but he can tell when the tires need to be rotated on the truck. maybe these are traditional roles but we consider it to be using the skills we each have to the best of our abilities. i dont consider it a failure to go and get someone who is a foot taller and who has 150 pounds on me if i cant lift or tote a heavy object, that is for sure.
and to Dace's point - i've been whacked with that feminists stick also. the people who wield it - like the quotes in that article - arent doing anybody any good by creating division among the ranks. i've been called a sell out and all of that. and i do think but that i should get paid the same as the guy next to me.
the saddest thing that i ever heard was from my pal Janet. she got a good education, a great job, and worked her butt off building an impressive career. she got a husband (not a great one because why should she? she didnt need a man she just wanted one) and then kept right on working. then she hit about 40. her man got a motorcycle, traded Janet in on two 20s, and drove away leaving her in an empty house.
she said that she tried to do everything that "they" said. but really what she felt like was that someone handed her a shovel and told her to dig. and so she did. and she kept digging. and then one day she looked up and saw "they" were all laughing at her. alone in that hole. no family. no kids. nada. and all she had to show for her life was a hole in the ground.
the day she told me that was the very last day i tried to do what "they" say to do.
if i'm a sell out because i hand my husband a plate of food, or dont run with the boys, or dress modestly, or dont call my girlfriends up and compare who's man is the bigger idiot just for sport...well, then fine. but i kinda thought we were all on the same side. which is not against the men -- life is hard enough. which is why good help IS hard to find but once you got it - baby its smooth sailing.
but for now.. i'm gonna go and check everyone's water and make sure everyone has plenty of shade.
today the stove is off, its cool in the kitchen, and i'm thinkin' i need some ice cream and some cobbler. peach of course.
as far as outside goes.. man its HOT... i'm done for the day. got some things weeded but the big headline is that we are going to work on extracting our honey today!!! i'm so excited. The Big Man was groaning as he was carrying the supers (the honey holding parts) of the hives up the hill. we are hoping for a bumper crop.. or those bees put rocks in it just to mess with us!
speaking of bees in our bonnets...
i think BB said it very well - good help IS hard to find.
around here i'm the carpenter (you should see my 12" compound mitre saw whoot!) but i've only looked under the hood of my truck once (under duress). while i'm on "life" - pippin' chicks out and bein' in the splash zone when the goats kid (and then puking shortly after) - The Big Man is on death (he has to dig the sad holes and deal with "the bodies" of our losses.
i'm better at seeing who is sick before my man - but he can tell when the tires need to be rotated on the truck. maybe these are traditional roles but we consider it to be using the skills we each have to the best of our abilities. i dont consider it a failure to go and get someone who is a foot taller and who has 150 pounds on me if i cant lift or tote a heavy object, that is for sure.
and to Dace's point - i've been whacked with that feminists stick also. the people who wield it - like the quotes in that article - arent doing anybody any good by creating division among the ranks. i've been called a sell out and all of that. and i do think but that i should get paid the same as the guy next to me.
the saddest thing that i ever heard was from my pal Janet. she got a good education, a great job, and worked her butt off building an impressive career. she got a husband (not a great one because why should she? she didnt need a man she just wanted one) and then kept right on working. then she hit about 40. her man got a motorcycle, traded Janet in on two 20s, and drove away leaving her in an empty house.
she said that she tried to do everything that "they" said. but really what she felt like was that someone handed her a shovel and told her to dig. and so she did. and she kept digging. and then one day she looked up and saw "they" were all laughing at her. alone in that hole. no family. no kids. nada. and all she had to show for her life was a hole in the ground.
the day she told me that was the very last day i tried to do what "they" say to do.
if i'm a sell out because i hand my husband a plate of food, or dont run with the boys, or dress modestly, or dont call my girlfriends up and compare who's man is the bigger idiot just for sport...well, then fine. but i kinda thought we were all on the same side. which is not against the men -- life is hard enough. which is why good help IS hard to find but once you got it - baby its smooth sailing.
but for now.. i'm gonna go and check everyone's water and make sure everyone has plenty of shade.
today the stove is off, its cool in the kitchen, and i'm thinkin' i need some ice cream and some cobbler. peach of course.
Farmfresh
City Biddy
I am NOT trying to stir up stuff at all, but lala I tend to agree with Dace here. The definition you give above is what feminism used to be (at least it seems so to me) and I totally agree with THAT thinking. If you can do a job well then what does age, race, color or gender matter. Unfortunately I think there is a LOT of just hatin' going on these days, under the flag of feminist at least. People both FEMALE and MALE who are constantly pooing on the idea of a traditional family. I personally am tired of ANYONE that tells me that staying married to the same man, having an order to the family unit and putting my family ABOVE a career is wrong.lalaland said:
What ever they call it - those people need to realize how valuable families and FARMERS are to this so called CIVILIZATION.
Now I am backing off your toes and apologizing to OFG for the spout off.
freemotion
Food Guru
Yes, equal pay for equal work is not what modern feminists are about. The major battles have been won, yet some vocal women hang onto their anger and unjustly direct it to anyone male.
What message do these angry women send to their boy children? That they are not needed, not wanted, and useless? How many feminists with male children are heard saying, "I don't need a man in my life to ...(fill in the blank)." So their boys grow up to disrespect women and not take responsibility for the children that they create. It is an epidemic.
I sometimes describe myself as a "recovering feminist." Not so much anymore, as I feel I've fully recovered.
And since when is being polite and kind (handing someone a plate of food, a basic hospitable gesture) considered "selling out????"
Sheesh. Barefoot and in the kitchen, that is where I want to be most of the time. Proverbs 31.....this woman is creative and talented, strong and industrious, makes big decisions on her own, owns businesses, purchases real estate, travels far to find bargains, does charitable work, and takes great care of her household. Her dh brags about her to anyone who will listen, while he is at work as a fine example to the community.
Sell-out? Sheesh. My hero and what I strive to emulate? Absolutely!
You go, OFG!
What message do these angry women send to their boy children? That they are not needed, not wanted, and useless? How many feminists with male children are heard saying, "I don't need a man in my life to ...(fill in the blank)." So their boys grow up to disrespect women and not take responsibility for the children that they create. It is an epidemic.
I sometimes describe myself as a "recovering feminist." Not so much anymore, as I feel I've fully recovered.
And since when is being polite and kind (handing someone a plate of food, a basic hospitable gesture) considered "selling out????"
Sheesh. Barefoot and in the kitchen, that is where I want to be most of the time. Proverbs 31.....this woman is creative and talented, strong and industrious, makes big decisions on her own, owns businesses, purchases real estate, travels far to find bargains, does charitable work, and takes great care of her household. Her dh brags about her to anyone who will listen, while he is at work as a fine example to the community.
Sell-out? Sheesh. My hero and what I strive to emulate? Absolutely!
You go, OFG!
dragonlaurel
Improvising a more SS life
" In her not-yet-translated book, "Le Conflit," she accuses today's new mothers of falling for eco- and bio-mumbo jumbo. They willingly breast-feed their kids, give birth at home, leave careers and forgo conveniences like disposable diapers and painkillers during labor. The modern baby, she writes, is "the best ally of masculine domination," love-struck mothers accomplices in their own demise. . . .
the statistics are starting to show that the vast majority of people really taking charge of going back to the land are women: not women who are blindly following their husbands into the woods for some servitude, but women who are, in a lot of cases, dragging their husbands along behind them with a stout "Honey, I know what's best. Go milk the goats." if that isn't empowerment, i don't know what is.
. . . women are also demanding that their husbands take a much more active role in childcare and bonding, preferring that the WHOLE family be working in the garden than focusing on the outside world. how ridiculous! "
If I'd had children- I would have used lots of the eco-bio stuff, including fresh made Mama milk and cloth diapers. Women can nurse at many types of work. It doesn't take much time to adjust a baby sling and throw a shawl on your shoulder.
I knew a guy that did construction with his baby on his back (the Mom was out of the picture). That's a much bigger challenge. The baby was not hurt at all and thought it was interesting to watch.
Now I just need to drag my husband into the woods and tell him to milk the goats and feed the chickens while I start building our cob house. . .
OFG- I hope one of those pies is ready. I' ll be working up an appetite.
the statistics are starting to show that the vast majority of people really taking charge of going back to the land are women: not women who are blindly following their husbands into the woods for some servitude, but women who are, in a lot of cases, dragging their husbands along behind them with a stout "Honey, I know what's best. Go milk the goats." if that isn't empowerment, i don't know what is.
. . . women are also demanding that their husbands take a much more active role in childcare and bonding, preferring that the WHOLE family be working in the garden than focusing on the outside world. how ridiculous! "
If I'd had children- I would have used lots of the eco-bio stuff, including fresh made Mama milk and cloth diapers. Women can nurse at many types of work. It doesn't take much time to adjust a baby sling and throw a shawl on your shoulder.
I knew a guy that did construction with his baby on his back (the Mom was out of the picture). That's a much bigger challenge. The baby was not hurt at all and thought it was interesting to watch.
Now I just need to drag my husband into the woods and tell him to milk the goats and feed the chickens while I start building our cob house. . .
OFG- I hope one of those pies is ready. I' ll be working up an appetite.
Farmfresh
City Biddy
Amen to that! Have you been secretly talking to my hubby? I swear he uses the same words even.freemotion said:
