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Well I'll give you my answer and we'll see what OFG comes up with, she is really a master dog trainer and doesn't realize it.

Food begging: Your bed idea is awesome. It is kind of a version of what we call "the long down". It is when you make your dog lay down for a long period of time. Nothing fancy. But if you do this with a willful dog, it understands that you are the boss. Your dog is obviously a good ol' boy, so he probably already knows a "lay down and stay" command. I'd just keep him laying down and on that bed during the entire meal, every time. He will eventually get the point. He will think to himself, holy cow, she is bossy, I better go lay down on this dang bed before she makes me. But at his age, he will be hard to train not to give you those sad looks. And any self respecting dog is gonna eat the mac and cheese the kid sneaks him, be REAL! :ya

Barking at the door: Hard to change an ingrained habit, but YOU would have to stop opening the door whenever he barks. He probably does it because nine times outta ten, you open the door when he does it. I find myself letting barking dogs in because they remind me that I forgot them outside! But if you don't like a behavior never reward it. You have let him in before when he barked, now admit it, haven't you? :hide I would think it doubtful that you will be able to untrain him about this though. At his age, he will remember to bark forevermore and it really doesn't bother dogs to bark, they don't mind a bit. Personally, I'd work on the laying down to eat one, but unless OFG has an idea up her sleeve that I don't, I can't see the old guy stopping barking at the door.
 

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hey everyone!

so trying to figure out if it will rain or not but wow what a crap-tastic day here. i need to either shovel out the kitchen or get the laundry under control. oh joy.

D - great work with your dog!

so the Monks say to make their dogs stay in their 'place' while they are all eating. each dog has his own spot in the communal room and they all 'down stay' while the brothers eat. so you could TOTALLY do this with your dog - in fact you can make it his "job" to watch while you are making dinner.

remember that working dogs will sit there and watch the sheep for hours so if you making him go to his 'spot' while you are doing that is just fine. tell him "we are making dinner now, go to your spot" (and point) or "we are working now, go to your spot" and really, if you explain it to him he'll get the gist of what you are saying even if he doesnt know what the words are. your intentional movements and tone of voice will let him know what we are "doing" something now.

as for the barking at the dog... um.. i'd keep it. especially for an older dog. our Shady does this - she takes longer than everyone else to come in so when she barks we let her in. at her age (17??) she can tell me she wants to sit on her bed.

or you can head it off my telling him to come in now - instead of waiting for him to decide to come in.

does that make sense?

but if you want to break it, you can go to the door, give him the "no no no we dont do that", go out, point to a spot (where you can see him from inside), and say "sit there and wait for me", then go in, close door, wait a second, make sure dog is still in the "go in spot" and THEN say (excitedly) "ok come in, good dog."

so basically retain to go to a specific spot that says, calmly "ok i'm ready to come in please" rather than "lemme in!' barking.

we had to do this with Lucky - he would jump up on the door if he was scared (storms, shooting whatever) and it drove me nuts. finally after going out, giving him the "NO WE DONT DO THAT SIT RIGHT THERE QUIETLY", go in wait for him to sit there, then let him in. it took months and was extremely annoying but he finally got it.

the point is to break him from deciding that he wants in to making him "ask" to come in but not in that jumping up on the door way.

but the big thing on you to make sure if he goes to his "go in spot" then you'd better send someone to go and let him in!

hows that?
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we'll see what OFG comes up with, she is really a master dog trainer and doesn't realize it.
hee hee hee you are so funny! i am not! remember - i'm not a dog person! hee hee hee but i love that you think that
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You ladies are the best! Thanks for the great ideas :thumbsup

I DO let Teddy in when he barks :hide although I try to time it in between barks, if that makes sense....thinking that at least I am not opening the door on command but in his mind, it probably IS on command. I like the idea of having him sit, but tend to agree with SD that at this point the little bark to let me know he is done is probably pretty ingrained. Although he has taken quite nicely to sitting in his new spot while I prep his meals.....but then again, we are talking about food here :p

I picked up Cesar's Pack Leader book and cracked it open yesterday....so far so good. I think my poor old guy needs some mental stimulation. Some training on any level will be good for his little brain :) just like a little old man, gotta keep the ol' noggin running smoothly!

Thanks for the great tips!
 

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See, she did have a trick up her sleeve........I'm too lazy and easily distracted for that one to work for me. I should rename myself Lazysavingdogs. It is just as easy for me to let the dogs remind us they were left outside....I don't have to hear it anyways. :gig Remember I'm pretty much deaf.
Someone asked us once if your rooster was noisy and I said no. The rest of my family burst out laughing. But to me, he never lets out a peep!
 

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savingdogs said:
See, she did have a trick up her sleeve........I'm too lazy and easily distracted for that one to work for me. I should rename myself Lazysavingdogs. It is just as easy for me to let the dogs remind us they were left outside....I don't have to hear it anyways. :gig Remember I'm pretty much deaf.
Someone asked us once if your rooster was noisy and I said no. The rest of my family burst out laughing. But to me, he never lets out a peep!
:lol: :gig :lol:

I am hard of hearing, I have learned to ask the neighbors, if our chickens, rooster, goats are too obnoxiuous. The don't bother me at all :gig
 

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Yea, they thought it was even funnier when I didn't know why they were laughing......:lol:
 

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SD, I don't know about you, but there are some sounds I can hear that others can't, but if you're talking to me, and turn your head, I haven't a clue for the most part what you just said. (Of course, that does come in handy if I DON'T want to hear someone. :D)
 

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Yes! But I'm accused of pretending I don't hear much more often than I actually do it.
 

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I have people that have a hard time believing that I'm losing my hearing because of this. :/
 

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