Sufficient Self's Bible Study Group

[Quail_Antwerp]

Needs a like button.

 

[Wannabefree]

Very classy

 

[Beekissed]

I stole this from BYH who had stolen it from FB.... Thought you all might like it!

Professor : You are a Christian, arent you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didnt. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You cant answer, can you ? Lets start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From GOD

Professor: Thats right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isnt it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, dont they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. Im afraid I havent.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesnt exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isnt.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we dont have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we cant go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isnt darkness?

Student : Youre wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isnt it? In reality, darkness isnt. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldnt you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science cant even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professors brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professors brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess youll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, youll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, wont you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge or FAITH.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

LOVE it, Bee!!

 

[FarmerJamie]

Nice post from FB, but it isn't true. sorry to say.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/religion/a/einstein_god.htm
http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

The brain CAN BE examined, all it takes is a bone saw to get through the cranium.

 

[Beekissed]

Some stories are told to make a point.... I'm well aware that this story isn't accurate from the standpoint of actual happening and it being from Einstein....one would have had to be in that classroom and recording it word for word to get this rendition. Some tales are told as a parable and Christ used those quite frequently....they are meant to inspire and instruct. That you pointed out the negative aspect of this tale instead of rejoicing in the general gist of it, tells me one thing....that you missed the point entirely.

Like getting on to someone for praying for women and implying that they left men out of their prayers simply because they didn't mention them in that particular prayer and that this seemed to have a specific agenda against males....same problem, different forum, I'm afraid.

 

[MarylandFutureFarmGuy]

I have a question for all you Christians out there (as I am Jewish, and this has been bugging me).


Everything in the Tanakh (You know it as the Old testament) that comes from God is cumulative. First, there are the Seven Noahide Laws. Then Comes the Ten Commandments, and the rest of the mitzvot (laws), 613 to be exact, you probably recognize them as Keeping Kosher and against incest, etc... However, what I don't understand, is why there would be a presence of laws, and then some understanding that "because Jesus died for your sins, you no longer have to follow them." They are religiously established rules and guidelines. Why would they be void? And if they are void, then why is it still of relevance to you?


And don't think I suddenly want everyone in the world to refrain from eating pork. As far as I am concerned, as long as you show a general good spirit, and do not steal (An item, a life, an amount of money), then you are a good person.


Hopefully this post hasn't been to far in the Moderator's Gray Area.....

 

[Beekissed]

Have you read the New Testament? It explains in there many different times why the sacrifice of Christ removed the need for some of those kind of laws and the continued need to abide by God's commandments. I cannot reduce all that information down for you for an internet forum but if you truly want to know the answer to these questions you will put in the read and study time to examine those scriptures for the answer to your question.

 

[Wannabefree]

The Law simply outlines/reveals what is and is not sinful.

Romans 5:20 The Law entered that the offense might abound.

Romans 5:13 for until the law, sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed where there is no law.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! I would not have known sin except through the law for I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said "Thou shalt not covet."
8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law, sin is dead.

The law, did not fulfil it's purpose, because men fall short of the law. With the law, and our incapability to follow it properly, how will we ever be able to reconcile with a perfect God? The law convicts and comdemns and grace is forgivness, how would we know we need forgiveness without the condemnation of the law? God has always wanted a relationship with His creation. Not because He needs us, but because He loves us, and wants us. So He sent Christ, to save us once and for all.

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

I have a question for all you Christians out there (as I am Jewish, and this has been bugging me).


Everything in the Tanakh (You know it as the Old testament) that comes from God is cumulative. First, there are the Seven Noahide Laws. Then Comes the Ten Commandments, and the rest of the mitzvot (laws), 613 to be exact, you probably recognize them as Keeping Kosher and against incest, etc... However, what I don't understand, is why there would be a presence of laws, and then some understanding that "because Jesus died for your sins, you no longer have to follow them." They are religiously established rules and guidelines. Why would they be void? And if they are void, then why is it still of relevance to you?


And don't think I suddenly want everyone in the world to refrain from eating pork. As far as I am concerned, as long as you show a general good spirit, and do not steal (An item, a life, an amount of money), then you are a good person.


Hopefully this post hasn't been to far in the Moderator's Gray Area.....

As best as I can answer this is, read the Book of Acts, chapter 10, where Peter was on the roof and became hungry. All manner of animal was brought to him and the Lord told him to get up, kill, and eat. When Peter said he'd never eaten an unclean animal, God replied with do not call that which I've made clean unclean.