Henrietta23
Yard Farmer
I took a chance and ordered some kefir grains. They arrived and they seem to be working. Can't quite get used to the taste. I have this nagging voice asking, "are you sure it's kefir and not just really sour milk?"
The only thing I added whey to was my black beans. Am I supposed to add whey to sauerkraut etc? I forgot!!freemotion said:Yeah, that bit about not using alfalfa sprouts surprised me, too. I bought a bunch of sprouting seeds, trying to be healthy, before I read that bit. I doubt it applies to hens, though, they eat plenty that we can't!
BBH, you are quite the adventurous fermenter! You are inspiring me to look at veggie sales a bit differently....please be sure to post your recipes, whether you ferment in plain salt and whey, or whether you add some herbs or spices or other flavorings, like garlic and onion, scallions, etc.
I think I might go pick a peck of pickled peppers!!!
Thank you!!!freemotion said:You can ferment with just salt, because veggies will produce lactic acid, especially if you pound them, as in making sauerkraut. Adding salt preserves them until they can build up enough lactic acid to avoid spoiling. If you add some whey, you jumpstart it with lots of lactic acid producting bacteria and can use less salt....as in my dilemma with my salty ginger ale.....my current batch has only the tiniest bit of salt in it, the whey makes it safe. It is a little added insurance for success.
Sounds like you are about as patient as I am....I woulda had some for you fairly soonish! Yep, the taste is....er....ok, yuk. I have to disguise it pretty good. DH likes it. I make the cheese, he eats it, I use the kefir whey for all my ferments. I figure it has to be more powerful than my regular cheese-making whey, since it has so many, many types of good bacteria in it.Henrietta23 said:I took a chance and ordered some kefir grains. They arrived and they seem to be working. Can't quite get used to the taste. I have this nagging voice asking, "are you sure it's kefir and not just really sour milk?"
I think I was mostly impatient for the whey. I did make some cheese which is more tasty than the kefir liquid. If I add enough stuff to it! If I kill this stuff then I still be wanting to be on your waiting list!freemotion said:Sounds like you are about as patient as I am....I woulda had some for you fairly soonish! Yep, the taste is....er....ok, yuk. I have to disguise it pretty good. DH likes it. I make the cheese, he eats it, I use the kefir whey for all my ferments. I figure it has to be more powerful than my regular cheese-making whey, since it has so many, many types of good bacteria in it.Henrietta23 said:I took a chance and ordered some kefir grains. They arrived and they seem to be working. Can't quite get used to the taste. I have this nagging voice asking, "are you sure it's kefir and not just really sour milk?"
BBH, Kefir is probably one of the least complicated of the fermented milk products, certainly less so than yogurt, which is IMO quite easy. But yogurt does require that you keep the temperature more or less steady, and kefir doesn't need even that. It does what it does at room temperature, but you do need to take care of it daily (or put it "on hold" in the fridge, as I am doing now). If you decide to give it a try just let me know. I should have enough to share in the next month or so.big brown horse said:ORChick thanks for that tip! (Still have not been able to locate those grains. Don't think I'm ready for that yet anyway...sounds complicated, is it?)
I am going to ferment asparagus next, I love pickled asparagus so much, may as well ferment some.
I am beginning to feel that my fermentation options are endless! I also love pickled green beans...hmmm. Pickled beets too!
Thanks y'all for opening this wonderful fermation door for me!