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ScottSD

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anyone else remember a certain president who said that he didn't have sexual relations with that woman?

there's a lot of teaching out there that says oral sex isn't sex so it is OK......

I actually heard that statement from a teacher who taught the stuff.
 

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I think abstinence is overrated. It is a nice, quaint idea but it is not grounded in the reality of human biology. What everyone seems to forget is that sex is natural and normal. What screws kids up is their parents freaking out over something that the human species was designed to do, and the ensuing judgement and shame that is attached to a perfectly healthy act. They need to learn to protect themselves, not to fight nature.
 

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redux said:
I think abstinence is overrated. It is a nice, quaint idea but it is not grounded in the reality of human biology.
Biology? thats what we should base our decisions on?? biology is why we have self control and some of us think its a virtue.

here's what i got from abstinence:

1. respect for myself
2. no worries about getting STD's
3. not knocked up
4. (*looks over at husband* ) The Big Man..

the generation who told women to just run right out there and hump away didnt do us any favors. please do not dismiss abstinence as some "quaint idea." some of us think its rooted in biblical principals that work.

sex between consenting adults is natural. between 12 year olds? shameful.
 

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ohiofarmgirl said:
redux said:
I think abstinence is overrated. It is a nice, quaint idea but it is not grounded in the reality of human biology.
Biology? thats what we should base our decisions on?? biology is why we have self control and some of us think its a virtue.

here's what i got from abstinence:

1. respect for myself
2. no worries about getting STD's
3. not knocked up
4. (*looks over at husband* ) The Big Man..

the generation who told women to just run right out there and hump away didnt do us any favors. please do not dismiss abstinence as some "quaint idea." some of us think its rooted in biblical principals that work.

sex between consenting adults is natural. between 12 year olds? shameful.
:clap WELL SAID!!!!!!!

My DS came home from school yesterday, saying a kid in his school who has been interested in girls for a while now, went home one day to find a condom on the counter where his mom was cooking. I asked DS what he thought of that, and he said, (paraphrasing)he thought it was horrible. It's like giving him permission at 13 to be having sex. It's just not right. She tries to be her sons best friend. His mom needs to be a mom, not his friend. :barnie (proud of my son though!)
 

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I have to agree, 12 year olds should not be having sex.

I think this age group should be kept busy after school. Cell phones, computers, texting and TV off limits unless I'm there! No MTV, VHI, and especially no Keeping UP with the Kardashians!! :gig

I cringe thinking of my own 13 year old having sex...YIKES! I know it can happen, sure, but not on my watch. Sure, she has crushes on boys in her classes, but she isn't going to be spending any free time with them.

She is too happy feeding the animals, gathering eggs, growing things in our garden, reading books and riding her horse...things a young girl should be doing.

On top of it all, this age group forgets to put on a coat when it is cold outside, how in the world would they remember to use protection??? Kids have enough to worry about in life. Getting a life long disease or ending up pregnant shouldn't happen on their parent's watch.

I talk about sex openly with my daughter, she knows all about the birds and the bees. Sex isn't a bad thing, just not something she should be doing at a young age.
 

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Know what, my DD is 10, and she doesn't know all the intimate details about sex, but she has a general idea.

Want to know how to prevent your kids from having sex? It's not just about talking with them about it - it's also about being a hands on parent and quit thinking the schools are going to teach your kids everything they need to know.

Want to know why schools are teaching sex ed? Because parents aren't talking to their kids.

Want to know what else parents should be doing? Knowing where and who your kids are every second.

Kid doesn't want to tell you where they are going or when they will be back? Guess what - you don't get to go!

My mom always called the parents of my friends to confirm with them.

I wasn't allowed to date until I was 16 - and then it was with the stipulation that it was a GROUP date - and she'd send my older step brother along as a chaperone.

Parents need to be actively involved in their children's lives - no matter if the kids want them to be or not !

edited because I re-read what I wrote, and it wasn't that nice. Sorry!
 

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I know a lot of a adults who are too dumb and immature to be having sex, a 12 year old just doesn't have the capacity to make decisions that important.
BBH, I think you said it best. Open and honest, but with a sanity caveat!
 

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Actually I think that is the same generation that promoted even more equal rights; unless we're thinking of two different things.

Generally, those rooted biblical principles involved girls as young as 12 being married off, sometimes to men as old as 40 and 50. Just saying.

In my family history there was actually a 16 year old girl who was married off to a 64 year old man. :sick
 

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Blackbird said:
Generally, those rooted biblical principles involved girls as young as 12 being married off, sometimes to men as old as 40 and 50. Just saying.
That's gross!

But, kind of true....

They also married first cousins.
 

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That's what I think :sick

Luckily (?) most of us in the more developed countries have acquired different standards.

BB - Who isn't planning on sleeping around anytime soon.
 

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