Do you ever . . .

[Wifezilla]

 

[abifae]

The behavior that appears acceptable to the younger folks does not necessarily equate to the behavior acceptable to old fogies like me and Boogity. We came from a different time when people weren't quite so rude and knew rules of social ettiquette. Now, these rules, like so many of the rules of society with which we grew up have been ignored, forgotten or just never taught. The end result is that folks of this "techno-generation" are quite frankly absolutely rude to folks outside their generation.

I find it extremely rude too. My niece is 16 and she says it is a rudeness, because it's a way to ignore the people you are around and stay distracted from everyone. Common doesn't make it polite.

Therefore, I do not think it was the obvious examples of affluence that annoyed Boogity as much as the perception of rudeness by the 20-30 something's that attended the party but only partially because most of them were still somewhere else, waiting for something better to come along. People who can't make a committment to something because they are waiting for a better offer are the ones who annoy me the most. You invite them for a social event and they "want to wait and see", meaning, they are hoping for a better offer. Why? Who knows but it is the same type of slap in the face Boogity was noticing.

That.

 

[calendula]

I don't think it is necessarily about how wealthy you are either (great post BTW Icu). I have many low income friends who act the same way. Too poor to pay for their own groceries, but they have cell phones and computers w/ high speed internet, and don't forget cable. They would never plant a garden, preserve their own food, or learn any useful skills. So rich or poor, there are people who waste and IMO have totally whacked values concerning what is important in life. I am 30 years old, and it ticks me off when I am in the middle of a conversation with a friend, and she blows me off to answer her phone!

But, still, I do not wish for TS to HTF. My grandparents are an immediate reason. They're old, and while they do garden and preserve somewhat, they would be totally f'd if anything horrible happened. They're out in the middle of nowhere, and if circumstance prevented me from getting out to them...I don't even want to think about it.

 

[Avalon1984]

The behavior that appears acceptable to the younger folks does not necessarily equate to the behavior acceptable to old fogies like me and Boogity. We came from a different time when people weren't quite so rude and knew rules of social ettiquette. Now, these rules, like so many of the rules of society with which we grew up have been ignored, forgotten or just never taught. The end result is that folks of this "techno-generation" are quite frankly absolutely rude to folks outside their generation.

I guess I am part of the Techno generation you describe and I dont find myself to be rude, or to have different values than my parents or grandparents had. I spend a lot of time at my job dealing with people and it is very easy to stereoptype everybody. Just today I was late for work because an older gentleman took 15min to park his car in 2 parking spots in front of me. Does that lead me to believe that all older people are incapable of driving, dont consider that there are people behind them that dont have all day to waste? No.

I am finding that people are getting too comfortable sticking other people into stereotypes because it is easier to look at them as a stereotype, than to actually get to know the person and see who they truly are. So far I have been defying every stereotype that people have tried to compare me to. I am young, yet I manage a farm mainly by myself. I work very long hours and am extremely careful on how I spend money. Every item bought or sold off the farm is carefully itemized and budgeted out. I dont own a cell phone, neither do I have the desire to own one. I am not on facebook or any of that stuff. My computer is 10 years old and I am now saving up money so I can get me a new one. I drive a very fuel efficient car and believe in sustainable farming, yet I dont chain myself to railroad ties to stop a train carrying atomic waste. I feel that I am fairly educated for my age but I do believe that there is always many more things to learn. When other people talk. I let them finish their sentence before talking. When a see an older lady or gentleman enter the restaurant, I get up and open the door for them. My parents were hay and small livestock farmers in East Germany and I grew up without ever tasting anything besides what was in season. I love to write and hunt for mushrooms. I used to bring flowers and gifts to the local retirement home until I moved too far away...but because I was born in a certain decade some people look at me like somebody that is on facebook 24/7, brags about her newest cell phone and thinks that mommy and daddy will pay for all of their needs.

I guess my point is that we need to be careful sometimes not to put people into categories such as rich, poor, young, old, baby boomers, democrat, republican, black, white, hispanic etc. I take great offense when people say that just because I belong to a certain generation I am lazy, looking for instant gratification and I am rude. It just shows me that this very person himself was too lazy to get to know me and learn who I really am. In the end it is their loss. My husband, who is way older than me (I call him old fart) always comes up with the argument that stereotyping can be justified when 8 out of 10 people fit it. I tell him thats too bad because one may just lose out on the opportunity to get to know 2 really interesting people, people you may actually learn from. Why- because it was easier to put them into a category.

I would ask the question what you refer to when you say social etiquette? If it has anything to do with cell phones, facebook and such, Id hate to say it but many of my friends in their 30s,40s and 50s are just as bad if not worse than younger people I know. If you say social etiquette means to respect your fellow human beings, that too can go both ways. I am sorry if you have had bad experiences with people of other generations but I believe it is unfair to put everybody in one pot because of it.

Now, to get back to the actual topic. I would be afraid of something bad happening. I may be better prepared than some other people down the road but I would not feel superior or better because of it. And I may just realize after a couple of days of SHTF that I am not as self sufficient as I thought. Better have the knowledge and not need it, than have the need for it and not have it.

 

[FarmerChick]

30th anniversary for 50 or 60 year old something

a group of young 30s kinda keeping to themselves

geez, like EVERYONE hasn't seen that type of party before...the younger ones invited and each group tends to group up on their own.



I think everyone is way too hard on a bunch of young party people big time.

I would almost expect young 30s to group up and not be totally invovled with the old folks...and for me I sure see nothing wrong with it at all.

I don't know why everyone expects someone else to 'always available and ready' for them on a drop of a pin....gee whiz lol

 

[aggieterpkatie]

I would ask the question what you refer to when you say social etiquette? If it has anything to do with cell phones, facebook and such, Id hate to say it but many of my friends in their 30s,40s and 50s are just as bad if not worse than younger people I know. If you say social etiquette means to respect your fellow human beings, that too can go both ways. I am sorry if you have had bad experiences with people of other generations but I believe it is unfair to put everybody in one pot because of it.

Bingo. It irks me to no end to hear people talk of "teens these days" or stuff like that. Every generation says it. It's pretty common to think young people are lazy and entitled and rude, but realize that EVERY generation says that about the younger generations. And did the "old people" ever stop to think THEY are the ones who raised the "young people" to be that way?

 

[Lady Henevere]

I would guess that at least half the texts were to other party goers. The youngsters *were* being social and friendly, just not in a way you recognized.

 

[FarmerChick]

I would ask the question what you refer to when you say social etiquette? If it has anything to do with cell phones, facebook and such, Id hate to say it but many of my friends in their 30s,40s and 50s are just as bad if not worse than younger people I know. If you say social etiquette means to respect your fellow human beings, that too can go both ways. I am sorry if you have had bad experiences with people of other generations but I believe it is unfair to put everybody in one pot because of it.

Bingo. It irks me to no end to hear people talk of "teens these days" or stuff like that. Every generation says it. It's pretty common to think young people are lazy and entitled and rude, but realize that EVERY generation says that about the younger generations. And did the "old people" ever stop to think THEY are the ones who raised the "young people" to be that way?

 

[JRmom]

And I'm wondering why in the world everyone has to be sooooooo darn PC these days? This is a public forum... we are all entitled to express an opinion... but it seems lately that some here are constantly picking apart posts to find something to get upset about.

Just in this one thread we've had upset over the hurricane, upset over rich vs. poor, upset over the younger generation. Good grief! Can we get back on topic? It's interesting hearing everyone's opinion ON TOPIC. All this other commentary is useless and irritating.

 

[k0xxx]

And I'm wondering why in the world everyone has to be sooooooo darn PC these days? This is a public forum... we are all entitled to express an opinion... but it seems lately that some here are constantly picking apart posts to find something to get upset about.

Just in this one thread we've had upset over the hurricane, upset over rich vs. poor, upset over the younger generation. Good grief! Can we get back on topic? It's interesting hearing everyone's opinion ON TOPIC. All this other commentary is useless and irritating.

I can't remember too many times where a group of friends were sitting around together and having a discussion, that the topic didn't stray a bit. It's just normal, and this medium is no different. We may go off on a tangent from time to time (like this post), but someone will generally move things back to the original post.