I watched the documentary "Fat Head" ....

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Dace said:
Well the general point (as I interpret it) is not focusing on a whole food diet, but showing that even if you have to eat crappy fast food it does not HAVE to make you fat...it is the carbs that are killing us. Fries, buns, sugary sodas etc.
A whole food nutrient diet is the healthiest option but I think Tom was attempting to prove the point that carbs are the evil not fast food. Although it is bad for you too!

Maybe someone else has a better interpretation.
I'll admit I haven't seen it, but just wanted to point out that fast food "meat" isn't just "meat" but is chock full of soy and other fillers. It has it's fair share of carbs and sugar depending on what kind you get. Of course, it's better than eating the whole burger or chicken sandwich if you take off the bun and that's certainly progress depending on your starting point.

FWIW, my kids used to beg me day in and day out for a Happy Meal because their friends eat them so one day I figured that one HM wouldn't kill them (we only have 100% grass fed meat at home -- good food is my one "luxury item"). I went through the drive thru and handed them their much coveted HM's for a long drive on the way home from visiting friends and when we got out the the car they dumped the food out and said they were leaving it for the animals and put the wrappers in the recycling bin. They couldn't even drink the juice boxes. They did eat the apple slices but were absolutely ravenous. Needless to say, they've never asked me for another Happy Meal.

When I was transitioning my diet, I drank hot water with apple cider vinegar, raw honey and coconut oil to help me get off of coffee tea, and soda and it also helped rid me of the carb and sugar cravings. Now when I have coffee or tea it upsets my stomach.
 

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Interesting. I don't generally eat fast food so I figured Fathead was not very relevant for me, but perhaps it's worth seeing.

Rainbeau, regarding "Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats" -- is that as politically charged as the name sounds? I love good information on food and nutrition, but I'd rather leave politics out of it. (Well, food and politics are inevitably intertwined, yes, but I don't necessarily want to read an openly politically-charged nutrition book, know what I mean?) :) Thanks.
 

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The beginning of the book has a chapter on "politically correct" nutrition and the damage it has done, but the main focus of the book is returning to the traditional food prep methods that gave greater nutrition than food methods used today.

You learn why you soak beans, how to increase nutrition levels in foods, how to counter act the anti-nutrients that are naturally found in seeds, etc...

Come on guys....let's not go all BYC on each other!
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Wifezilla said:
The beginning of the book has a chapter on "politically correct" nutrition and the damage it has done, but the main focus of the book is returning to the traditional food prep methods that gave greater nutrition than food methods used today.

You learn why you soak beans, how to increase nutrition levels in foods, how to counter act the anti-nutrients that are naturally found in seeds, etc...

Come on guys....let's not go all BYC on each other!
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now that is cute!!!

I thought you soaked beans to take some of the gas out. Hmmm.... so that's not the reason?
 

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Lady Henevere said:
Interesting. I don't generally eat fast food so I figured Fathead was not very relevant for me, but perhaps it's worth seeing.

Rainbeau, regarding "Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition and the Diet Dictocrats" -- is that as politically charged as the name sounds? I love good information on food and nutrition, but I'd rather leave politics out of it. (Well, food and politics are inevitably intertwined, yes, but I don't necessarily want to read an openly politically-charged nutrition book, know what I mean?) :) Thanks.
No, the book isn't political in the common use (the common division that's tearing up society, but that's a whole 'nother rant). It explains a bit about the politics of food at the beginning of the book, as Wifey explained, because, as has been pointed out in this thread, politics, big ag and our industrial food system are all intertwined through money and power.
 

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I thought you soaked beans to take some of the gas out. Hmmm.... so that's not the reason?
It's not the ONLY reason

"Soaking, fermenting, sour leavening or sprouting grains, and soaking seeds, nuts and legumes (any plant that grows seeds in a pod such as peas and beans) before cooking, baking or eating them initiates the sprouting process which neutralizes enzyme inhibitors and removes phytates (phytic acid) found in whole grains, nuts, seeds, beans and legumes. Phytates block absorption of minerals, such as calcium, magnesium, iron, copper, etc., and most of all zinc, in the intestinal tract. These minerals are needed for strong bones and teeth, and for overall health.

These foods also contain enzyme inhibitors that interfere with the absorption of proteins, which causes gastric distress and chronic deficiencies in amino acids. Soaking allows enzymes, lactobacilli, and other helpful organisms to not only neutralize phytic acid, but it also removes enzyme inhibitors and breaks down complex starch."
 

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Wifezilla said:
I thought you soaked beans to take some of the gas out. Hmmm.... so that's not the reason?
"Soaking, fermenting, sour leavening or sprouting grains, and soaking seeds, nuts and legumes (any plant that grows seeds in a pod such as peas and beans) before cooking, baking or eating them initiates the sprouting process which neutralizes enzyme inhibitors and removes phytates (phytic acid) found in whole grains, nuts, seeds, beans and legumes. Phytates block absorption of minerals, such as calcium, magnesium, iron, copper, etc., and most of all zinc, in the intestinal tract. These minerals are needed for strong bones and teeth, and for overall health.

These foods also contain enzyme inhibitors that interfere with the absorption of proteins, which causes gastric distress and chronic deficiencies in amino acids. Soaking allows enzymes, lactobacilli, and other helpful organisms to not only neutralize phytic acid, but it also removes enzyme inhibitors and breaks down complex starch."
um...... huh?

I got her book and returned it to the library within a couple of days. I just didn't get most of it.
 

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There is stuff in the beans that are bad for the human body. Soaking counteracts them. That's all you need to know :D
 

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Eating a fast food diet soley (with or without carbs) is gonna kill ya.

It is never about "weight and fat around the belly" only.

It is all about internal organs....and if you eat fast food even without carbs and junk and be skinny, it sure don't mean you are healthy.

Health is not equal to skinny at all.



So it sounds like Atkins diet to me..lol
 

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I am just as suspicious of anyone who says all carbs are bad as someone who says all fats are bad. What about moderation, common sense, etc. People are quick to jump on every fad that comes along and tout it as science.
 
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