freemotion said:Yeah, OG1, be brave!! The program Dace and Noobie and BBH are using outstrips WW by miles in a published study. Double the weight loss and triple the waist circumference loss in three months compared to a year on WW, Ornish, Atkins, or Zone diets. Save yourself some dollars, we will help you....the journalling and accountability and support here are extremely helpful and promote success. We are nice about it, too, btw.