Ohio and Issue 2~poll results are coming in, for now, 2 is passing

Quail_Antwerp

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PamsPride said:
Ok, so I am supposed to vote YES on Issue 2??
Pam, you're supposed to pray about it and vote the way God tells you to. ;)

And, read about/listen to both sides.
 

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This is what worries me
from ohioact.org

Though the amendment appears to create a board
representing a wide variety of interests, a closer look at the
actual language reveals that in reality this is not the case.
According to the amendment, the appointed board
consists of 13 members. The governors appointed director
of agriculture would join 10 other governor-appointed
members and two members chosen by the Speaker of
the House and the President of the Senateputting
an enormous amount of power in the hands of a dozen
political appointees and making this Board susceptible to
partisan abuse. 5 Additionally, there are no rules regarding
the length of the terms of the Board members, further
amplifying the undemocratic nature of the membership. 6
While the board would have limits on the number of
members allowed from any one political party, set at seven
members, it is unlikely that this limit would keep political
influence in check. In all likelihood a simple seven-person
majority would suffice to pass rules on the Board, which
means that a single political party could use the Board to
push its agenda.
So the governor is appointing some of these people - and will that change every time the governorship changes? But it says there are no rules about term limits either. (I'm really tired, so I may be interpreting wrong)

This proposed amendment leaves way too much undefined, I think.
 

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Javamama, I honestly don't know. I'm thinking, though, that 3 of those appointed members are farmers, so no matter political party, those three farmers aren't going to agree to anything (at least I would hope not) that would increase farming expenses in Ohio or hurt Ohio Farmers.

I don't have the answer. I'm doing a lot of praying, though.

ETA: I just saw where you said that is found at Ohioact.org.
HSUS links to that site, they want you to read that to convince you not to vote. Go to the hsus link I posted earlier, and scroll to the bottom. They use the Ohioact.org site as a reference for their side.
 

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Ugh, see that's what is so confusing. It's so hard to tell what info is coming from whom in all this. There are soo many conflicting info sites that pop up. (granted, I didn't look into that last site at all) I'm voting no. I'm not going to vote for something that isn't clear. If they can't do a better job writing these bills/amendments, spelling things out so regular people can understand it, then I don't trust it.
I would like to see specific language protecting the rights of little backyard farmers like most of us here.
 

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The legal writing of these things are very confusing--to me at least. That is why I called my rep. and got the info directly. All my questions answered and a little peace of mind as to what exactly I am voting on.
 

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Javamama said:
Ugh, see that's what is so confusing. It's so hard to tell what info is coming from whom in all this. There are soo many conflicting info sites that pop up. (granted, I didn't look into that last site at all) I'm voting no. I'm not going to vote for something that isn't clear. If they can't do a better job writing these bills/amendments, spelling things out so regular people can understand it, then I don't trust it.
I would like to see specific language protecting the rights of little backyard farmers like most of us here.
I haven't lived there since I was a little girl, but that Option 2 sounds bad. The Governor gets to pick 11 out of 13 people. Plenty of potential to swing votes any way the Governor wants and he is a politician- not a farmer.
They get the authority to pass other rules about farmers. No. There are enough rules about farming already. You don't need another group to pass more of them.
Let the farmers do their work and let the government stay out of the way- if they want to eat.
I think they need to vote no on it and vote no on any legislation the Peta group tries to push through there.
 

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Better we have Ohioans setting the standards, than the folks who govern California. They can't even balance their OWN budget, let alone feed themselves.
 

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dragonlaurel said:
Javamama said:
Ugh, see that's what is so confusing. It's so hard to tell what info is coming from whom in all this. There are soo many conflicting info sites that pop up. (granted, I didn't look into that last site at all) I'm voting no. I'm not going to vote for something that isn't clear. If they can't do a better job writing these bills/amendments, spelling things out so regular people can understand it, then I don't trust it.
I would like to see specific language protecting the rights of little backyard farmers like most of us here.
I haven't lived there since I was a little girl, but that Option 2 sounds bad. The Governor gets to pick 11 out of 13 people. Plenty of potential to swing votes any way the Governor wants and he is a politician- not a farmer.
They get the authority to pass other rules about farmers. No. There are enough rules about farming already. You don't need another group to pass more of them.
Let the farmers do their work and let the government stay out of the way- if they want to eat.
I think they need to vote no on it and vote no on any legislation the Peta group tries to push through there.
Dragonlaurel, I agree, but the problem lies in the fact that PETA and HSUS have succeeded in passing their legislation in every state they have gone after.
 

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Right now, with 1% of the poll results in, Issues 1, 2, and 3 are all passing. :(
 

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I am SO disappointed that issue 3 is passing!! :(
 
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