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Poor baby! 
Oh and for you guys too!
Oh and for you guys too!
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Farmwife
Good Morning! Last night, Bud started the panting and rough breathing thing again. I got on the computer and found a new treatment--probably not new. We held an ice pack on his lower back until he cooled down and stopped panting. The article said it will slow down or stop a seizure if they have already started. Or prevent it like I think we did. We went to bed shortly after and he slept all night. I didn't. Still too nervous about him and it was HOT!!! One note--Do not give them an antihistamine! It can cause more seizures!
The cool front came through at 7 am and I went back to bed for an hour and a half. That was wonderful!
Not much going on today and that is Fine with me!!!!!
The cool front came through at 7 am and I went back to bed for an hour and a half. That was wonderful!
Not much going on today and that is Fine with me!!!!!
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Farmwife
Here is the link for the ice pack treatment in case anyone is interested.
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/icepack.htm
Bud is doing fine still. He likes the ice pack! He seemed a little warm last night so I put the ice pack on his back and he turned into position so I could place it better.
Nothing going on here today. This waiting just gets me!
http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/icepack.htm
Bud is doing fine still. He likes the ice pack! He seemed a little warm last night so I put the ice pack on his back and he turned into position so I could place it better.
Nothing going on here today. This waiting just gets me!
pinkfox
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seizures in dogs are tough and i dont have MUCH experience with them directly, but they can be caused by a number of things (any new cleaners, fertilizers ect being used aorund the place?)
thankfully these sound relitivly mild (and helped by an icepack is generally a good sigh)
my first suggestion is try to stay calm,its scarier for you than it is for him make sure if he does go into convulsions he cant fall off anything and gently but calmly talk to him during (itll help keep YOU calm lol.
obviously watch the teeth end...sometimes they snap/nip accidentally (and no worries he wont swallow his tounge) but the key is definatly stay calm.
the fact youve removed BHA from the diet now is a big thing, its one of the most common seizure inducers in dogs who are not epileptic...however it can take up to 2 weeks for those chemicals to be cleared rom the body so dont be suprised, if thats the cause if this kind of stuff goes on for a little while.
if its environmental figuring out the cause would have the same result, again find out if there using any fertilizers, or if youve changed clenaing products ect.
if environmental is ruled out see if you can think back on any details of the day leading up to the episode, i also suggest keeping a fairly detailed journal for the next few weks, note any beahvoiour that doest seem right but also note "today cleaned the stove with *insert product*" or "today there out doing landscaping" your looking for patterns that could lead to triggers.
seizures are obviously not always epilepsy and a few seiures is not nessicarily indicative of a seizure disorder...so i wouldnt worry too much at this stage in the game, generlaly even if it is a seizure disorder vets dont like to treat with medication unles they are frequent (at least 4-5 times a week) or severe.
keeping track of those patterns will also help if this does become a vet nessicary issue.
seizures can be caused by anything, from chemicals to a bump on the noggin to a virus, to ingredients, even something as simple as a scent, stress or low blood sugar.
they can also sometimes have seemingly no rhyme or reason...
my parents cocker spaneil is now 8 yrs old and early last year he had a week where he had a few seizures..., he had 3 in totoal over the space of a week, never had them before, and *touch wood* hasnt had any since, we couldnt figureout a cause and the vet said unless they become more frequent, theres not much to do or worry about, and that it was probably just a virus working through his system.
i wish i could be more help
but in this case id keep an eye on him, continue the icepacks as nessicary if they seem to be helping and keep a journal...if this goes on for more than 2 weeks (or becomes mroe frequent (multiple seizures a day)) then id give the vet a call and an EEG might be in order to rule out abnormalities...
*hugs* its scary to watch...
i wish i had more answers or suggestions. seizures are odd things.
thankfully these sound relitivly mild (and helped by an icepack is generally a good sigh)
my first suggestion is try to stay calm,its scarier for you than it is for him make sure if he does go into convulsions he cant fall off anything and gently but calmly talk to him during (itll help keep YOU calm lol.
obviously watch the teeth end...sometimes they snap/nip accidentally (and no worries he wont swallow his tounge) but the key is definatly stay calm.
the fact youve removed BHA from the diet now is a big thing, its one of the most common seizure inducers in dogs who are not epileptic...however it can take up to 2 weeks for those chemicals to be cleared rom the body so dont be suprised, if thats the cause if this kind of stuff goes on for a little while.
if its environmental figuring out the cause would have the same result, again find out if there using any fertilizers, or if youve changed clenaing products ect.
if environmental is ruled out see if you can think back on any details of the day leading up to the episode, i also suggest keeping a fairly detailed journal for the next few weks, note any beahvoiour that doest seem right but also note "today cleaned the stove with *insert product*" or "today there out doing landscaping" your looking for patterns that could lead to triggers.
seizures are obviously not always epilepsy and a few seiures is not nessicarily indicative of a seizure disorder...so i wouldnt worry too much at this stage in the game, generlaly even if it is a seizure disorder vets dont like to treat with medication unles they are frequent (at least 4-5 times a week) or severe.
keeping track of those patterns will also help if this does become a vet nessicary issue.
seizures can be caused by anything, from chemicals to a bump on the noggin to a virus, to ingredients, even something as simple as a scent, stress or low blood sugar.
they can also sometimes have seemingly no rhyme or reason...
my parents cocker spaneil is now 8 yrs old and early last year he had a week where he had a few seizures..., he had 3 in totoal over the space of a week, never had them before, and *touch wood* hasnt had any since, we couldnt figureout a cause and the vet said unless they become more frequent, theres not much to do or worry about, and that it was probably just a virus working through his system.
i wish i could be more help
but in this case id keep an eye on him, continue the icepacks as nessicary if they seem to be helping and keep a journal...if this goes on for more than 2 weeks (or becomes mroe frequent (multiple seizures a day)) then id give the vet a call and an EEG might be in order to rule out abnormalities...
*hugs* its scary to watch...
i wish i had more answers or suggestions. seizures are odd things.
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Farmwife
Thanks for your input, Pinky!!! I don't think it's environmental as I have been making my own cleaning supplies for several years. A week before it happened, he had to listen to the city wide siren test for emergencies. And he did have the Valley Fever for over a year. Those seem like the biggest possibilities unless he fell off the bed or couch when we were gone. And the loud train whistles since the crossing is right next to us--so loud we can't talk or hear over it. Hopefully it won't happen again. Weare much more watchful now!
Big day of nothing here at the park. Tomorrow morning early, I'll go to Walmart. That's it folks!
Big day of nothing here at the park. Tomorrow morning early, I'll go to Walmart. That's it folks!
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WalMart is NO fun, trust me I spent 15 minutes in there today 
Hated every second of it. 
I hope Buddy is okay
Hated every second of it. I hope Buddy is okay
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We don't go to walmart anymore unless we HAVE to!
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Wait, your parents have a Cocker, Pinky?! OK, maybe I don't want to know. I just can't get a dog yet.
pinkfox
Super Self-Sufficient
yup the parents have an Emarican x English cocker spaniel mix...he was a puppy mill rescue and is a little bit taller and has a less boxy head than the american cocker but a little too boxy in the chest to be an english.
Ive always been around cocker spaniels, my first dog was an english cocker, she lived to 14, Charlie the current cocker is 8 now. LOVE them, there a great family breed, happy go lucky, sweet natured (assuming good breeding and training)...but id always go english over american...more stable on the temperment and a much sturdier "working" dog
Ive always been around cocker spaniels, my first dog was an english cocker, she lived to 14, Charlie the current cocker is 8 now. LOVE them, there a great family breed, happy go lucky, sweet natured (assuming good breeding and training)...but id always go english over american...more stable on the temperment and a much sturdier "working" dog
