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It seems apparent that while I was typing (and being distracted) she had mentioned messianic Jews. i will look that up as I have never heard that term before. All so interesting!!
 

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miss_thenorth said:
It seems apparent that while I was typing (and being distracted) she had mentioned messianic Jews. i will look that up as I have never heard that term before. All so interesting!!
Yes it is! Im glad we have her here! I TRULY am!
 

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Okay, first question - so if the Lord has made these promises to Abraham and his descendants, don't Muslims fall under this as well as Jews and Christians?
 

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FarmerJamie said:
Okay, first question - so if the Lord has made these promises to Abraham and his descendants, don't Muslims fall under this as well as Jews and Christians?
Muslim as a religion, no. Muslim as a people group, yes. The Muslims are the descendants of Ishmael through flesh which is the key to understanding how that works, or doesn't. Isaac was the child through which the Son of promise(Christ) would come, who carried on in his father s footsteps as far as relationship with God. Muslims believe that Jesus was simply a prophet. BUT, Jesus is the key to salvation. Faith that the Messiah(Jesus Christ) has come and laid down His life for our sins is salvation. If you do not belive in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, how can He take your sins? The muslims, religious group, does not believe Jesus was who He said He was, and until they do, they can not recieve salvation through Him. Unfortunately. There is only one truth. I love all people, and wish all would come to know God. So, just because I believe this way, does not mean I harbor ill feelings toward Muslims, or any other religious group. That is the TRUE Christian belief system. Confusing those two things though, is why we are so often hated and misunderstood :(
 

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I just found this, do you mind if I use the off days to catch up and join in Sunday?
 

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sheaviance1 said:
I just found this, do you mind if I use the off days to catch up and join in Sunday?
Come on in! Whenever you are ready. This is open to everybody interested in studying/discussing the bible ;)
 

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Well said. God's promise of salvation is for ALL people. Jesus Christ paid the ultimate price for your sins. Either you recognize WHO He is and accept the gift of salvation or you don't.

It makes no difference whether you are born Jewish, Muslim or Hillbilly the Gift is there all you need to do is accept it.

Since God sent his Son to the Earth for ALL people who would believe, it would be kind of foolish for me to judge someone else or look down on them. If they are good enough for God to want to save they are good enough for me. :cool:
 

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Wannabefree said:
FarmerJamie said:
Okay, first question - so if the Lord has made these promises to Abraham and his descendants, don't Muslims fall under this as well as Jews and Christians?
Muslim as a religion, no. Muslim as a people group, yes. The Muslims are the descendants of Ishmael through flesh which is the key to understanding how that works, or doesn't. Isaac was the child through which the Son of promise(Christ) would come, who carried on in his father s footsteps as far as relationship with God. Muslims believe that Jesus was simply a prophet. BUT, Jesus is the key to salvation. Faith that the Messiah(Jesus Christ) has come and laid down His life for our sins is salvation. If you do not belive in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, how can He take your sins? The muslims, religious group, does not believe Jesus was who He said He was, and until they do, they can not recieve salvation through Him. Unfortunately. There is only one truth. I love all people, and wish all would come to know God. So, just because I believe this way, does not mean I harbor ill feelings toward Muslims, or any other religious group. That is the TRUE Christian belief system. Confusing those two things though, is why we are so often hated and misunderstood :(
I would also like to add that blood is the only pardon for sins. Jews sacrificed animals and Christians have Jesus who died for us, his blood was shed. His blood covers our sins. Muslims do not sacrifice anything nor do they have a savior.....
 

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sheaviance1 said:
I just found this, do you mind if I use the off days to catch up and join in Sunday?
You are welcome here!! Sunday would be great! We are starting Galatians Chapter 4 on Sunday!
 

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BarredBuff said:
Wannabefree said:
FarmerJamie said:
Okay, first question - so if the Lord has made these promises to Abraham and his descendants, don't Muslims fall under this as well as Jews and Christians?
Muslim as a religion, no. Muslim as a people group, yes. The Muslims are the descendants of Ishmael through flesh which is the key to understanding how that works, or doesn't. Isaac was the child through which the Son of promise(Christ) would come, who carried on in his father s footsteps as far as relationship with God. Muslims believe that Jesus was simply a prophet. BUT, Jesus is the key to salvation. Faith that the Messiah(Jesus Christ) has come and laid down His life for our sins is salvation. If you do not belive in Jesus Christ as the Messiah, how can He take your sins? The muslims, religious group, does not believe Jesus was who He said He was, and until they do, they can not recieve salvation through Him. Unfortunately. There is only one truth. I love all people, and wish all would come to know God. So, just because I believe this way, does not mean I harbor ill feelings toward Muslims, or any other religious group. That is the TRUE Christian belief system. Confusing those two things though, is why we are so often hated and misunderstood :(
I would also like to add that blood is the only pardon for sins. Jews sacrificed animals and Christians have Jesus who died for us, his blood was shed. His blood covers our sins. Muslims do not sacrifice anything nor do they have a savior.....
This is why I fumble around at this stuff. My mind races ahead of my fingers and I'm not clear now in my own mind where I was going with my question....:he
 
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