Bee's Guest House

[ohiofarmgirl]

I must admit that I literally cannot bear to visit someone who allows their dogs to jump up on/against people. It is so incredibly rude!!!

Then they start shouting at the dog, like it's his fault! So, not only do you have muddy paw prints all over you but you have created a domestic broohaha as these people shout at their dogs, apologize for the offense and then banish the dog to another room or place it in the house for safekeeping.

One has to imagine that this scene has been played before with the same results....why in the world don't they correct the behaviour so they won't have to go through this over and over?

ha! thats what my MIL does.. but she thinks its ok for their stooopid poodles to bite us too.

i would die of embarrassment if my dogs did that. sheesh!

D - i'll post more pix of kai then you'll be sunk for sure. she is so cute.

 

[Beekissed]

My dog, Jake, is part border collie and that is the part I do not like about him. All that nervous energy makes me nervous...I like a dog that can stand or sit still for 2 seconds without bursting a blood vessel. Jake cannot, poor thing.

So...Border Collie is not in my personality or character.

Anyone else feel like their dogs are just a reflection of themselves in some odd way? Either by destiny or design?

 

[TanksHill]

ok, this is Rottweiler;

Temperament
The Rottweiler is basically a calm, confident and courageous dog with a self-assured aloofness that does not lend itself to immediate and indiscriminate friendships. A Rottweiler is self-confident and responds quietly and with a wait-and-see attitude to influences in his environment. He has an inherent desire to protect home and family, and is an intelligent dog of extreme hardness and adaptability with a strong willingness to work, making him especially suited as a companion, guardian and general all-purpose dog.

(so probably not me!)

Uhhh that's me I guess.


Ok Bee how would you correct a dog that is "over enthusiastic" when visitors come. Fell free to tell all. I can take it.

g

 

[Dace]

ok, this is Rottweiler;

Temperament
The Rottweiler is basically a calm, confident and courageous dog with a self-assured aloofness that does not lend itself to immediate and indiscriminate friendships. A Rottweiler is self-confident and responds quietly and with a wait-and-see attitude to influences in his environment. He has an inherent desire to protect home and family, and is an intelligent dog of extreme hardness and adaptability with a strong willingness to work, making him especially suited as a companion, guardian and general all-purpose dog.

(so probably not me!)

Uhhh that's me I guess.


Ok Bee how would you correct a dog that is "over enthusiastic" when visitors come. Fell free to tell all. I can take it.

g

I have a dear friend with an out of control HUGE bulldog. He is a sweetheart but very rambunctious to the point of leaving bruise on my legs from his jumping. I posted my story of him on OGF's journal but that thing is on fire and you would probably never find it

So one day I had had enough of the the big guy's enthusiasm and figured if my friend was not going to control him then I would protect myself and let him know what my limits were.

As soon as she opened the front door he was on me like stink on poo.....or in my case maybe flies on honey

I sharply lifted my knee and caught him square in the chest. He was a little surprised but was not going to give up easily....the next attempt to jump on me was met with a bit more force and it flipped him over onto his back (imagine a bug stuck on his back, um yeah that was poor Hank) His momma said "oh my!" and I looked at him and practically dared him to jump on me again...which of course he did, but it was his last time

That is what I was always taught as a kid with a jumpy dog, but I really do not know what is the proper way to control them....I just knew that day that I was in no mood to be mauled by a big old HEAVY Bull Dog!

We have another friend with a 2 yr old lab. We were at their house for bible study and they could not let the dog in because she went wild with all the people there....about 12 of us, all seated mind you. We convinced them to let the poor whining dog in but she only lasted about 5 minutes and was sent upstairs with the children...there was no leader in that pack for sure! It made me feel a little bad.

 

[Beekissed]

That usually needs to start when you are doing basic obedience training. I never let my dogs jump up on or against anyone...these are big dogs, which is terrifying enough, let alone them bouncing off you. It is also a sign of dominance~or a challenge of one~ in a pack to "get up on" the leader.

My dogs get excited when visitors come and they dance around...but they do not touch. I'm very strict about that. If they are dancing around too much and the visitor is obviously nervous about it and are putting their hands down in a guarding position, I usually tell them to not worry, the dogs will NOT jump up on them....and then I tell the dogs to go lie down! And they do.

Everyone loves when puppies run to them and jump up for pets...it's cute and shows their willingness to be with us. But I don't allow it. I gently put them back on the ground and say firmly "NO". When their feet are back on the ground, I reward that with lots of love.

My boys always wanted to get Jake to jump up and even wrestle with them...but I wouldn't allow this either. There is a time and place for rough housing and it isn't with humans. That is why I have two dogs instead of one, so they have their own social structure and play.

Folks with small dogs feel that it is harmless if their dogs jump up....after all, they are only little and can't hurt anyone. But they can. Sharp little claws can literally rip an elderly person's skin off in a large flap. It's best if you never allow it in the first place.

Would anyone allow their kids to run towards strangers and jump up on their persons like a crazed monkey? Nope. It would be very strange and not at all cute. It isn't with dogs either.

If you have an older dog that need correction on this, it is much the same technique. Firm command and a sit down. Reward the correct action. If they persist, some dog trainers state you should step lightly upon the toes of their back feet. This is a dominance move and provides enough discomfort to make them drop to all fours and try to move away.

Be consistent, be firm. Reward good behaviour, discourage the bad. Same with kids.

 

[FarmerDenise]

When we got our puppy, I insisted that the whole family go to obedience class, so we would all be on the same page. Well DSS went to one class with us, decided he knew it all and made sure he was unavailable (translate: was not home and could not be found) for the rest of the classes.
I also bought a puppy training book.
At least SO was with me regarding the training, since he went to all the classes. It was still hard to "untrain" the previoulsy learned behaviour....I am talking about SO.

The jumping up thing really irritates me. I consistently have to tell DSS and SO, not to have the dog jump up on them. Friends have been a problem in that regard too. SO and I decided, that since our dog is supposed to be a guard dog, we lock her in her pen, when we have company. There are exceptions, when most family and certain friends come, she is allowed to stay out. We mostly wanted people to get the idea, that she is a guard dog. The nice thing is, that we point and say:" in your pen" and she goes.

Our dog rarely jumps on me, because I don't go for it. Unfortunately, since I cannot get DSS and SO to stop asking her to jump up on them, she doesn't know that this is bad behavior :/

It also drives me nuts, when I am having a "training" session with Spike, that SO feels the need to tell her what to do. I want the dog to listen to ME.

SO also constantly feeds her from his plate and then he complains that she begs. She doesn't beg from me. I only feed her in her bowl, after we finish eating. If I give her treats, it is totally seperate from our meal and she always has to do somthing for it, even her heartguard medication.

To prevent a dog from barking, you really need to stop it when they are puppies. You put them in their crate or pen and don't respond at all, when they bark. Not even with a NO. You make believe you don't hear it. You walk away. When they are quiet for 3 or so minutes, you go and pay attention to them. That way they learn, that barking doesn't do anything!

 

[Beekissed]

Oh, Denise!!! Your SO needs some serious training!!!

I am only successful in my training of the dogs because I also control my sons successfully in this matter...I can't imagine fighting what you are fighting. Imagine how confused your dog must be?

I'm just too mean and crusty to accept rebellion of my direct orders....either the SO would have to go or the dog would. And I would pump for keeping the dog.....

 

[FarmerDenise]

Oh, Denise!!! Your SO needs some serious training!!!

I am only successful in my training of the dogs because I also control my sons successfully in this matter...I can't imagine fighting what you are fighting. Imagine how confused your dog must be?

I'm just too mean and crusty to accept rebellion of my direct orders....either the SO would have to go or the dog would. And I would pump for keeping the dog.....

You got that right. If or when I leave, I am taking the dog and goats with me

Spike is a lab mix, I think she may have whippet in her.

If I could have the dog I really want, it is Norbottenspetz. I had one before and she was the perfect dog in my eyes and she was true to the breed.

But I'll settle for a pitbull

 

[TanksHill]

Ok so we screwed the dog up I get that. Remember he was a surprise. I was not prepared for a dog. When he is bored he still will walk to a toy basket pull it out pick something then walk away and eat it.

Ds liked to play rough with the dog, we had serious arguments with him when Toby was little. Trying to explain that you can not wrestle on the floor and end up with the dog humping you. When he gets older this will be a problem.

Dh feeds him people food.

The thing is when family comes over his size is very intimidating. He doesn't really jump but runs to the person expecting love and petting. Some people don't want to love and pet a 110 lb Rottweiler. I can tell him to go in a firm voice and he will listen.. I actually taught my 5 yo, who was 4 when we got him how to commend him.. He still today listens to her with more respect than the older kids.

Dace I have kneed my dog before. It makes a clear point. But I don't think Grandma is willing to do the same.

He need a buddy. But I am not up for the cost and upkeep of another dog.

 

[Beekissed]

Pitbull? Hmmmmm......

The Am Staff is a people-oriented dog that thrives when he is made part of the family and given a job to do. Although friendly, this breed is loyal to his family and will protect them from any threat.

Denise, does that sound like you?